Also, I’m a pad user. I can use a stick, but I’m more comfortable with a PS3 pad. I grew up playing fighting games with it. However, I’m probably one of the few Fuertes who try RSF on pad often. Yes, you do improve as you practice with it. I can do 2 RSF 45% of the time, but I still need more practice. Having that HP as the R1 button sort of “slows” down the execution, but I got it. I can do it over and over since the rhythm is embedded in me now. I just need to do it faster.
For now, I stick to j. HP -> HP -> Run -> Slide
I do this so many times due to punishing a lot of people’s mistakes, and yet, it disappoints the hell out of me cause I could have used a more damaging RSF combo. I could do so much more damage…but I’ll overcome it.
Fuck yeah, I can now do 3 consecutive RSF on the pad after a year of practice! It’s all about getting the hand use to the rhythm. It’s a fast execution, but 3 is usually enough. Now just to implement the slide into the end of it and I’ll be set.
Because of your post once, Densuo, about running away and taunting, I’ve been doing it some in a few matches. Since Fuerte is basically suppose to be a fighting clown, then it’s natural for him to taunt every now and again. However, the downside is that I wouldn’t use it in a serious match, since I want to keep the momentum I build. The more El Fuerte is moving around, the harder it is for the opponent to guess what he’s going to do next. It mostly works as wake up game mix ups, so I can’t do it well against characters with decent wake ups.
My main intention is to kill the clock. Though if I do build momentume I’ll press forward. But if the opponent is being stupid or I feel I am countering too easily I WILL taunt. I average 4-6 reps of run stop taunt. I HAVE to taunt All fire users. 'be careful cooking with fire!!"
Damn it I was so close! Almost landed a three hit in trials. Is the timing of the third hit different from the second? Also. Is it me or can rsf no longer be done in the corner?
The timing for the third hit is only different from the second if you timed the second hit wrong. The second hit doesn’t give you a good sense of the overall timing. It can still be done in the corner.
That is the most beautiful, most graceful display of RSF I’ve seen. :amazed:
On a side note, what is the world record for most fierces done by any player in an RSF? I remember watching the TKD interview where it was mentioned that Poongko and TKD have done 15 reps on Boxer. Just wondering if the record’s been broken since.
[media=youtube]bmPO2EpUDj0"[/media] shows 17 hits in regular sf4. I think the record will be set higher in ssf4 though. Technically, it should be possible to do RSF with tool assistance, so I’m not sure how to tell which videos are real human execution.
I spoke to Maj about his Bi-Weekly TACV (his El Fuerte one). He said he tried RSF on his programmable pad and it would not work above a few hits, I believe that you have to adjust your RSF timing from situation to situation.
Its almost been a year since this thread was last updated.
The timing for RSF in SSF4 has changed slightly imo, but after watching a couple of vids I’ve seen people doing the RSF pretty consistently past 6 hits. Especially after that 11 hit video during an online match, I really want to get at least past 5 hits consistently, but have been stuck at this for about 2 months. Anybody change up the way they RSF from SF4?:wonder:
I say you’re fine if you can get 5 hits consistently. The damage and stun damage scaling makes RSF past 6 hits to be unnecessary effort and risk.
You know that many mash out a reversal during your RSF, hoping you’d drop it some point. It’d be best if you just started your mix-up straight from the 5th hit or just end with the good ol’ slide.
Here are the numbers I posted on the thread earlier. These are SSF4’s stun and damage chart for each successive RSF performed.
Numbers in the parenthesis are difference in stun/damage from the each preceding RSF combo.
From 6 RSF to 7 RSF (both with lvl 2 focus and slide) the additional stun is 10!
Each additional RSF from 7 is constantly 10, unless I’m incorrect.
I personally think practicing to get 5 RSF down consistently, and then spending your time on polishing up on your mix-ups, safe tortilla set-ups, fake outs, and defensive mentality will help you be better El Fuerte sooner.
However, do not let me discourage you from wanting to reach high numbers with RSF. It is an opinion of just one amigo after all. Feel free to hear what others have to say and freely make your own choice.
