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[System_1]

I’m ending my piece on this

without even addressing the point I made about needing to spend MORE MONEY just to get the system to par.

[System_1]

Nor did he address the point that a game like LBP has effectively infinite possibility and replayability.

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

On the games front, most games (like 80-90% of them) are going multiplatform, I’ve just recently looked at the release list for the rest of this year for both consoles.

And all of them, including SCIV look better on 360. I cant confirm, since I only have the PS3 edition, but online reviews says its brighter and crisper. And I already know Live is better. If the d-pad wasnt so BIG of an issue, that would have been YET another game on 360 over teh PS3.

If you own one console you don’t need to own another unless you REALLY want those exclusives.

You are right. I wouldnt have bought a PS3 if I didn’t want to play Gran Turismo 5, but that wont be until 2011, though.

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

without even addressing the point I made about needing to spend MORE MONEY just to get the system to par.

Okay. It continues. As long as we stay civilized.

PS3 for me

60GB system = 500
Dual shock 3 = 65 (imported)
headset wireless= 20 (used)

XB360 for me (latest one)

Halo system = 400
headset wireless= 40 (used)

The halo one had the battery and plug and play.

The TV came the with HDMI cord, so that was not needed or either.

Nor did he address the point that a game like LBP has effectively infinite possibility and replayability.

Done in prior post; if you want that go do some create a guys. Oblivion, wrasslin, Saints Row, whatever else.

[Septimus_Prime]

And all of them, including SCIV look better on 360. I cant confirm

If you can’t confirm, then stop trolling.

[Black_Chanler]

Gonna revive this thread real quick to say that

Shenmue games have always, and will always be boring generic pieces of shit.

Although I enjoyed both when they came out, the Shenmue series will always be heavily defended by people for what it did when it came out instead of the legacy it holds now. Phantasy star 1,2 and 3 fall in that category as well

Since Sega seems to have no interest in concluding the story, Shenmue is one of those games I wish I never played.

Games like Panzer Dragoon, Final Fantasy Tactics, Gunstar Heroes, Mario 3, Jet Grind Radio, Tony Hawk 2 are still fun til this day and games like Shenmue aren’t.

[System_1]

Done in prior post; if you want that go do some create a guys. Oblivion, wrasslin, Saints Row, whatever else.

Incorrect. Creating a new character in a game does not in any way have the same effect as an entire game based around creating levels and sharing them. For one thing, your own created character doesn’t do much to increase replay value for other players. In another, more important point, custom characters do not have anywhere near the same level of variety or originality that tons and tons of homemade levels can have. Homemade levels leave more room for self-expression and disparity. Really, to even try to pass off create-a-character as better than custom levels is laughable. And this is coming from someone who wishes every game had create-a-character too.

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

If you can’t confirm, then stop trolling.

Ohh, ONE point I cant make from experience, and I’m trolling. Video reviews of SCIV says that. Other games I have played in the past, says that.

Take things too serious much, guy? :looney:

Creating a new character in a game does not in any way have the same effect as an entire game based around creating levels and sharing them

There are only going to be so many things you can do still. You cant affect gravity, or any engine/physics aspect. It will be no different than custom Brawl stages, except online. See, its not original, and has been done before.

Really, to even try to pass off create-a-character as better than custom levels is laughable.

It is better. I prefer making a human of my own design and seeing that character go through a game, especially in cut-scenes, as if they were a default character. In LBP, you get Jim Henson muppet looking deals, and run them through a level. No story, getting to see your guy do stuff, nothing.

I tell ya what. You can play litle Big Planet, have fun with other’s designs. I will make some custom chicks in Saints Row 2 and blast shit away all night.

[kane_warhead]

I prefer the 360 over PS3 because there aren’t any pirated blu-rays yet.

ZING!

[Septimus_Prime]

I heard Hatred Edge hates 360.

[_PFH_Lake]

xbox games suck, there I said it

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Although PSX may have had been a better system, N64 has aged a lot better. I’m still playing certain N64 games today where as I don’t pop up a PSX game that often. Probably has something to do with the N64 having far stronger multiplayer…

yep.

[System_1]

There are only going to be so many things you can do still. You cant affect gravity, or any engine/physics aspect. It will be no different than custom Brawl stages, except online. See, its not original, and has been done before.

Just because some other things have similarities doesn’t mean that the later one isn’t original. LBP takes the foundation of custom levels which other games have done and improves upon it by providing a larger variety of things you can do and by designing the entire game around sharing with each other. Of course there will be limitations upon what you can do, but nonetheless a level editor will still provide countless more variety and possibilities than a create-a-character does. It just takes some imagination.

It is better. I prefer making a human of my own design and seeing that character go through a game, especially in cut-scenes, as if they were a default character. In LBP, you get Jim Henson muppet looking deals, and run them through a level. No story, getting to see your guy do stuff, nothing.

I tell ya what. You can play litle Big Planet, have fun with other’s designs. I will make some custom chicks in Saints Row 2 and blast shit away all night.

And that’s cool that you prefer create-a-character; everyone has their preferences. But you know what? Nobody else gives a crap about your created character. It doesn’t really do anything for them. Custom levels, on the other hand, there is a real reason for people to take an interest in someone else’s design. It can be fun and interesting to people beyond the person who originally made it. A whole slew of custom-made levels will do a lot more to improve the longevity of the game as a whole, across the market.

If you prefer create-a-character, that’s fine for you. Again, everyone has their personal preferences. But to try and just write off LBP is a joke. Many people are very excited to see what they can come up with, see if they can create things that will interest other people, and see if other people can create things that will interest them.

[bokchoy]

Exception.

PS1 started out VERY strong before the previous gen competitors(Sega and Nintendo) had a chance. Anyone with a 1/2 brain could see that the PS was the system to have by late 1996, regardless if you wanted a Sega or Nintendo machine.

PSX actually became popular in '1998, and continued to be popular when the N64 was released.

This is also an excpetion. The DC had the first (non import/ram cart) arcade perfect CPS2 Capcom ports(MVC1,ST), All the SF3 titles before PS2, DC-based aracde MVC2 and CVS2. It did all that before the PS2 was released, or PS2 version of said games were released. So…of course it was the main console of choice.

Your “exceptions” only support my point, which is: Most people have the common sense to judge a console by what it provides, and not by what the previous consoles did.

I really cant see it. A fucking stupid looking game with little substance. Whats original? Nobody at this point can do anything that HASNT been done before. Wowwee, I get to design a level and have other people go through it. Whoop.

Like I said, YOU might not like it, but can you see how OTHER people might consider it one of the most highly anticipated games out there?

Free online. You get what you pay for. Play ANY game on both systems online, and tell me the WHOLE experience is the same. Sure, gameplay and latency is about equal, because it depends on your connection, but you got less people, even less of them with mics.

Funny how you diss free things and the play the “you get what you pay for” card, and suddenly, price becomes a con when you’re talking about Blu-Ray.

As for wireless, you should wire up anyways. Its the damn people with their machines on different floors than the router thats stinking up MY online gaming. At this point, wireless is NOT as good as hardwire. Even my Wii, I have the hard wire adaptor.

Personally, I have no problems with my wireless connection. Always 100% connectivity.

Blu Ray? My PS3 came with That redneck Nascar movie, and I traded it in before watching it. HD torrents + fast connection+ HDD space > $30 Blu Ray movie that you will watch once. But then again, I guess people want to actually say they purchased their PS3 for something. If not games, then movies.

So, you’re judging the entire BD library by one movie that you haven’t even seen. And for the record, if I genuinely thought that the X360 was better and felt that I NEEDED BD to justify my PS3 purchase, I would have bought an X360 instead. Regardless, I’m only speaking for myself, but I’ve spent more time and money on BD than video games.

You must realise not everyone just got their system, not when MOST multiplats are looking and playing the same. I already had all the systems, back when PS3 versions of games were looking much crappier than 360’s, they were coming out later than the 360 version.

But even if I were shopping TODAY for one…there’s still the same games, give or take plus a bigger backlog of games for 360. Its the PS3 that has no compelling reason to be chosen. Unless you want Little Big Planet over Gears 2. Or a backlog of lesser performing multiplats…or 6 hour exclusives, like Heavenly Sword, or Drakes.

Why not compare Resistance 2 to Gears 2? It would make it a little less obvious that your opinion is heavily biased and one-sided.

As I said, I didnt just buy these yesterday. I was there when there was NO real reason to own a PS3. Since the 360 has shitted on PS3 in every single way possible the whole time I’ve owned them, I dont see the PS3 as the leading machine.

And ofcourse if all you have is the PS3, I must take your opinion with a huge grain of salt. Owining systems does count for something.

And I dont like Halo, and never owned a Halo game. Or Gears.

I had a X360, then Blu-Ray won the high-def war, so I sold it and bought a PS3. If HD DVD won, I’d probably still have an X360 and a Toshiba HD DVD player instead.

Having more systems doesn’t count for anything. It doesn’t make you any less biased. Someone can have none of the systems and still give a good argument, and then someone can have ALL of the systems and still twist facts to make their FAVORITE system look better (kinda like you).

[System_1]

Ohh, ONE point I cant make from experience, and I’m trolling. Video reviews of SCIV says that. Other games I have played in the past, says that.

Yes. You said something without being able to back it up, and that is trolling b/c you know it’s going to get a rise out of people in the thread.

btw, I’m watching the gametrailers comparison right now and it doesn’t look any different from each other. Also Gametrailers has the tendency to ‘conviently’ leave out Full-Range HDMI which makes a hell of a difference. Leaving that option out puts the Xbox games heavily in their favor. Everyone whose even serious about real comparisons know this.

edit: even when Gametrailers did that, the SCIV PS3 version still ended up looking a bit better than the 360 version. Unless you go looking for the differences you’re not going to really see it.

I remember the one about The Darkness, it looked brighter in the PS3 version on the video, yet when I actually played it on my own screen with HDMI Full-Range and it came down to the only difference was the more realistic textures (which everyone seemed to agree on)

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

Your “exceptions” only support my point, which is: Most people have the common sense to judge a console by what it provides, and not by what the previous consoles did.

Exactly. Which is why in 2007 the 360 was bar-none the choice to get.

Funny how you diss free things and the play the “you get what you pay for” card, and suddenly, price becomes a con when you’re talking about Blu-Ray.

I only brought up price, because you are gonna watch it once.

So, you’re judging the entire BD library by one movie that you haven’t even seen. And for the record, if I genuinely thought that the X360 was better and felt that I NEEDED BD to justify my PS3 purchase

I’m not judging the BD library, I’m showing you how important BD is to me; so important that I never watched one.

I’ve spent more time and money on BD than video games.

Because you only have a PS3. YOu wanted to get some use out of it, right? Ofcourse you have a ton a BD and no games.

Why not compare Resistance 2 to Gears 2? It would make it a little less obvious that your opinion is heavily biased and one-sided.

Point is, I thought LBP was some kind of second coming? People treat Gears 2 like the second coming, and PS3 people treat LBP like, so why not compare?

I wont be buying either so its a moot issue here.

I had a X360, then Blu-Ray won the high-def war, so I sold it and bought a PS3. If HD DVD won, I’d probably still have an X360 and a Toshiba HD DVD player instead.

Having more systems doesn’t count for anything. It doesn’t make you any less biased. Someone can have none of the systems and still give a good argument, and then someone can have ALL of the systems and still twist facts to make their FAVORITE system look better (kinda like you).

I dont have a favorite system. I have games that I want to play, and one of the 2 available outlets happens to usually be better than the other one. You see, I had no problems getting Soul Calibur on PS3 over 360.

Yes. You said something without being able to back it up, and that is trolling b/c you know it’s going to get a rise out of people in the thread.

I’ll be playing both on an LG 32’ HDMI back to back soon enough.

[bokchoy]

Because you only have a PS3. YOu wanted to get some use out of it, right? Ofcourse you have a ton a BD and no games.

ROFL. Dude, one thing you need to get through your thick skull is that not everybody is like you. Just because BD’s are a 0 to 1 time watch for you, doesn’t mean it is for everyone else. Just because you dislikes BD’s doesn’t mean everyone else dislikes them and buys them just to justify their PS3 purchase.

I don’t expect you to agree to anyone else’s opinion, but you need to learn how to distinguish between statements that can be accepted as fact and statements that are opinion.

Examples of facts:
-X360 exclusively has Halo 3.
-PS3 has Blu-Ray as an advantage over X360.

Examples of opinion:
-Blu-Ray’s are not worth watching more than once.
-LBP sucks

BTW, for the record, if I had a LG 32", I wouldn’t bother with Blu-Ray either. I’ll give you that.

[System_1]

Because you only have a PS3. YOu wanted to get some use out of it, right? Ofcourse you have a ton a BD and no games.

what the hell. like how stupid can you be??? Only from Pro-360 fanboys like you, that I hear stupid crap like this. You guys are always blabbing about how PS3 gamers have no games, yet they have a bigger and more meaningful library than most 360 gamers I know including myself! And if you check out my Gamercard you’ll see I probably even have more games than you (but disregard those stupid games like Jumper some of those games were bought and played on my system by my friends nephew)

Point is, I thought LBP was some kind of second coming? People treat Gears 2 like the second coming, and PS3 people treat LBP like, so why not compare?

because they are not the same type of game squid brains.

I dont have a favorite system.

Bullshit it’s clearly an Xbox 360 and anyone reading this thread can tell you that. You think the X360 is the coming of the God’s and that MS can do no wrong, and they’ve been roflstomping PS3 this whole time when that was so much further from the truth. I don’t give a damn if you bought the PS3 when it was 648, 500 or whatever, like bokchoy said, just because you own the system doesn’t make you any less biased than you already are. If I can’t use that, you can’t either. You’re fucking biased as hell.

I’ll be playing both on an LG 32’ HDMI back to back soon enough.

Okay then, go ahead and play both. If you don’t know what you’re looking for they will look identical. But since you’re biased, you’re just going to say the 360 version looks better by default like everybody else. If you go into comparison threads and posts (especially on gametrailers) you’ll just see people saying 360 version is better for no damn reason whatsoever and when the REAL comparison talk comes out, either it’s identical or the PS3 version is better.

Case in point. Oblivion. We had people that were even Pro-360 fanboys say that the PS3 version looks better but we always had some idiots come in that said 360 version is better, fuck the PS3 version so and so without even OWNING a PS3 version to even try it. Does that sound like somebody?

[scum_gale_88]

I love it when people bash the Dreamcast with little or no knowledge of it at all. they just use the old “it failed” excuse so they can be ignorant assholes.
SNES “failed” and you dont hear people whine about that.
literally every system has failed, and yet the N64 is still put on a pedestal for the handful of games really worth playing and is a pretty piss poor gaming machine as a whole.

According to a foolish co-worker I:
-need to sell all my gaming machines and buy a 360 so I can play CALL OF DUTY AND DAT GEARS OF WAR YO!!
-am one of ten people who actually own a Dreamcast.
-am dumb for liking anything thats over 1 to 5 years old.
-need to buy the Wanted movie game because “YOO CAN CURVE DUH BULLITS! BOOSH! BOOSH! BOOSH!!”. no joke, he actually said boosh boosh boosh to simulate the sound of a gun while flipping through an issue of Game Informer.
-am dumb for liking Neo-Geo games even though he probably has no idea what it is other than the silly name, sorry pal.
-have just made a lot of poor decisions as far as gaming goes.

he is my new Obi-Wan, his wisdom has shown me the light.
fucking stooge. hate that kid.

[Darkstalker]

I love it when people bash the Dreamcast with little or no knowledge of it at all. they just use the old “it failed” excuse so they can be ignorant assholes.
SNES “failed” and you dont hear people whine about that.

Not exactly on topic, but I always thought the Dreamcast failed because it specified to a really particular niche. According to what I’ve studied, catering to niches isn’t always the best thing to do and mass marketing actually seems the way forward (not applicable in all instances of course).

I mean, just look at the Wii. Last I checked it had amazing sales.