mvc2 is the best game of all time.
yup
Well first of all, guitar hero and rockband are so played out its not even funnyā¦but i donāt even consider them games. they are just interactive karaoke. I know people that hate video gamesā¦yet they love rockband, that doesnāt make senseā¦unless itās not a video game.
Some games are more palatable to the mainstream than others. Some are more hardcore. Fighting games are the same way. There are people that love SF but just mash, they have no idea how to play. Thereās still the hardcore audience.
I donāt really know what you mean by āplayed outā, but if you donāt like it, how is it hurting you if other people do? I think they are fun games. I like music, I like games, and I like the fusion of both.
EDIT: and they are games. They are challenging if you play them on the harder difficulties. GH/RB arenāt exactly the toughest rhythm games out there but if you play Beatmania or other more āhardcoreā aimed rhtyhm games you will see what I mean.
There isnāt much point in getting upset about things posted in this thread, by that same token however; posting your opinions in an overly aggressive fashion does look āplain damn weirdā
In my opinion Wind Waker is the best Zelda game in the entire franchise, Twilight Princess is meh.
Iām not upset, I do get ranty though in my original post. I didnāt read the rest of the thread since I figure this was more or less a podium to rant from for most people.
You knowā¦Iāve actually had people come into my store who were like that and I really wanted to tell them to GTFO. I was telling a co worker about that shit and he made a pretty good analogy about people who have been in War in comparison to Call of Duty. How dumb would it be if a soldier came up to you while you were playing Modern Warfare and was like āput down the controller and go to Iraqā.
This seriously made me laugh out loud 
counter strike is the best fps on the market
the only game that is not a fighter that gets my heart pumping
- the madden franchise is ass
I could have sworn you wear snapping your fingers on a few of those. Anyway, RE:FF7
FF7 was a good game, but a few fanboys took it way too fucking far. This gave birth to a new movement: FF7 bashing, FF7 bashing in itself went so far that now weāve come full circle, and liking FF7 is in itself once again an edgy opinion.
Does anyone see how fucking silly and arbitrary that shit is?
I think threads like these would be cooler if it was more like people talking about games they felt didnāt get enough exposure or got unfairly shunned. That way maybe we can check out these games or go look for em or whatnot. I think the hating and negativity just leads to arguments and then moderation eventually.
As much as I like to rant and hate on shit, I think it would probably be better to be positive. Oh well, maybe next thread, eh?
console games suck, handhelds are a joke
pc games are pretty awful except a handful
games these days generally suck and thatās a fact
books are good though
books > games
I just wouldnāt focus on it too much. Everyone on both sides took it too far. Fortunately I had my fling with ff7 back when I didnāt really know about internet/forum culture so I was able to just play it unbiased and have a good time. I feel like the people who hated/gushed about it ruined it for everyone else. Like even now I donāt really wanna play it again because of all the bullshit Iāve had to hear on both sides over the years.
I donāt get the the massive amount of hype for Diablo 3. Iām probably going to buy the game but i am not the least bit excited for it. I could care less if it continues to get delayed for the next 5 years or just never comes out. It looks like it will be the same type of click click click āoh i cleared that dungeon again and this time I got a sword with 1 more attack power than my last oneā game play. I sort of see the appeal, but really the games focus too much on simple loot addiction rather than trying to really improve the core game. I know that many people have fond memories of Diablo 2 but really, a lot of similar games have come out since then which take the same looting concepts but apply more interesting combat. Diablo 3 looks like a trip back to 1999 with improved graphics, but I think that people who are looking for more than an addiction to weapons with slightly higher numbers attached to them are going to get bored of the game quickly. I plan on playing the monk because I like to play melee classes and it seems like the monkās game play will revolve around more than a non-stop series of untimed clicks. Having actually tried several looting style action/rpgs since Diablo 2 I can say that Iām much more looking forward to the likely announcement of a new Phantasy Star Online game by the end of the year. Phantasy Star Universe was kind of a disaster but I thought Phantasy Star Zero was a step in the right direction. I just hope that Sega is capable of being good again and makes a worthy sucessor to PSO that doesnāt suffer from the neglect that PSU went through.
As for under-rated games, the most recent example that kind of surprised me was Death By Cube for the Xbox Live Arcade. I expected average review scores with comparisons to Geometry Wars but wow most of the reviews for this game are just terrible. And itās kind of disturbing how many reviewers basically said āI suck at this game and canāt figure out how to do good, so Iām giving it a low score.ā I urge anyone who likes twin stick shooters to give the demo a try. The game is broken up into stages with different goals and 3 medals to earn on each level based on score. It might take some time to get used to effectively switching between dodging and shielding, but you should be able to figure it out with some practice. The game gets pretty damn challenging in the last set of stages too.
Fuck yes! Too bad Matsuno isnāt even in Square anymore.
This FF7 hate discussion inspired me.
FFT is the only decent FF game. Japanese RPGs are not really RPGs for the most part, all Dragon Quest / classic FF type JRPGs are terribly dumbed down strategy games and people think they are good because they wrongly think that good story, characters and music = good game. They may be good stories, but definitely not good games. Thereās not much āgameā to be found in most JRPGs.
Vagrant Story is the only really good game Square ever did, and a lot of more modern Action RPGs should have taken notes from its battle system.
The Witcher is a terrible, terrible game. 90% of the game is based on incredibly tedious fetch quests, and the battle system is Vagrant Story re-redux. Its only saving grace are the tits.
Randomly activated skills in RPGs are a terrible idea. Random anything in videogames is mostly a terrible idea.
Tactics Ogre > FFT in every aspect except for graphics and music. FFT is basically a dumbed down TO. Less characters in battle, shorter stages, no alignment, no story decisions, more forgiving difficulty. FFTās job system is more complex but at the same time makes the game ridiculously easy and encourages grinding.
Chrono Cross, while not a good game, gets a lot of undeserved hate considering itās not really worse than Chrono Trigger.
You know itās odd to me that people say this about FFT and the FF games so much. It doesnāt play anything like the rest of the FF games. Theyāre not even in the same genre of gameplay. I think the better thing to say is simply that you donāt like JRPGs or at least taht you prefer strategy rpgs. If you put it in that lens itās not hard to see why you would be frustrated with or not like the traditional view of JRPGs.
Not trying to argue with you/say youāre wrong, just playing devilās advocate I guess.
If you think about it, traditional FF/DQ games are just strategy games. Very basic strategy games. FFT is also a strategy game, but adds extra elements to the mix, like positioning, terrain properties, formations (which are also present in other FF games, albeit in a much more limited way). Thatās why I think like I think.
I consider that JRPGs should be either full fledged SRPGs or Action RPGs.
Story, characters, and music are perfectly valid criteria for judging a game, if thatās what the person sees as fun and thatās what the game designers chose to focus on. āVideogameā covers a lot of ground these days. Any given JRPG may have gameplay thatās not fun (most imo), but trying to catch them on technicalities or for not matching up with what your definition of āxā category of game should be is silly, because itās just playing with words. If FF7 labeled itself as an interactive, third person, narrative experience. It wouldnāt change any single element of the game.
All those things are NOT the game. They may add to the feel of the game and improve the experience, but they are NOT valid criteria for judging a game, on their own. A game is what you play. FF7 may be a good story, have good music or whatever, but itās not a good game. What you play in there is a bare bones strategy game with minimal interaction and long unskippable FMV sequences.
FF7 could be a nice interactive novel / anime but, as a game, I canāt find anything redeeming about it. I love FF6ās story and characters, but I realize Iām just suffering through a bad game to get to the next story part. Same thing with Lunar, I used to love it even though I absolutely despise it as a game.
I think most people nowadays just misunderstand what a āgameā is.