I feel ya pain on the stick conversion. I personally am slowly transitioning myself onto using stick though. I started using it first only for 2D games then as I get more accustomed to it start using it for 3D games. I can’t take the cold turkey method though just cause I want to develop the ability to go from pad to stick without being handicapped, though I am not sure how efficient it will be. I am feeling the pain of not being able to use stick though… all the T6 is on stick so without being able to use it I am just donating money over here…
tekken on a stick
the amount i play, having to do that much inputing over such a long period of time
makes me sleepy
I play Marvel and Darkstalkers on a Mas, and there are really no problems there.
I decided to give the Japanese sticks a try, though. American ones just feel weird on Street Fighter for me, I dunno why. Anyway, I picked up the Madcatz Standard Edition a couple of weeks ago, and I play almost perfectly on it…
…when I’m facing left, that is. From the P1 side, I cannot pull of qcf or dragon punch motions consistently at all. The same goes for qcb motions while I’m on the P2 side. I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong, but it’s a ton of frustration. I constantly lose matches that I should have won had I been able to do something as simple as a dragon punch when I needed it.
And as if that wasn’t enough, the hate mail comes in. I used to love getting hate mail after playing Street Fighter online. It was hilarious. However, now that I’m losing (and to people worse than me), it’s a different story. I seriously have to play when I’m alone, because if anyone else is in the room with me and they try to say something about the way I’m playing, or give me a hard time for playing terribly, I lash out. I get very angry, and sometimes have to stop playing because I think I’ll kill someone if I do a SRK -> FADC -> uf.HP one more time.
I wonder if I should keep trying with the Japanese stick. It’s really not working out.
Does anyone have any tips as to what I can do to make the qcf motions simpler on myself? I’ve tried turning on the input data in training mode, but it’s not like I’m making a single constant error. I do something different and weird every time. I mainly just end up jumping a lot when trying to do moves, though.
TL;DR:
CAN’T DO QCF MOTIONS ON P1 SIDE WITH MADCATS SE STICK. HALP!!!
Since I have the oposite problem to you (can’t DP well on the p2 side, improving on it though) this is probably an example of the blind leading the blind but I found that the diagonals on the SE are generaly further away then you think they should be, try reaching out a little more to be sure not to miss them for your qcfs.
I know people discourage “riding the gate” but it actualy helped me out a bit on this one.
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There is no magic answer. Just practice.
Billy Wagner is a professional baseball pitcher who pitches left-handed. As a youth, Wagner was a natural right-handed pitcher, but after breaking his throwing arm twice, he taught himself how to use his left arm by throwing nothing but fastballs against a barn wall. Even though he’s not a natural lefty, he learned through practice, and is now a professional pitcher (though he’s on the DL).
Practice practice practice. You can unlearn your pad mechanics and retrain yourself on a stick with due time. Just practice and play the game often and daily. Even just ten minutes a day if you can’t spare significant time will do a long way.
There’s no easy shortcuts luckily I like to practice a lot.
I was in a similar position, swore by the PS2 dpad. Took about 2 months on a stick to make the switch but it was so worth it.
I’m in the same boat here. Pad warrior since ST came out on the SNES. I got a Hori FS3, when SF4 came out but I have real issues doing moves. I get frustrated and go back to the pad. I know I just need to stick with it, but my main issue with that stick is that it’s not heavy enough and it constantly moves. SO, in the middle of the round, I jump when trying to walk forward. I want to get a TE but I have to find one first. I really want to get good with a stick because so many good fighting games are coming out this year, I feel like I’m back in the 90s.
Yea, really.
I used to be in a similar position months ago, but after a long time of just playing a lot, I can say its easier to play on a stick then on a controller (at least in fighting games, I still prefer using a control pad for most shooters 
), play a lot and don’t give up is really the best advice one can give.
One input that I just can’t get down is linking crouching attacks into DPs, such as s.HS cr.LP l.tatsu cr.MP (reset) xx Demon Flip grab. Which one of these is the proper input?
Is it :d::mp::dp::lk:?
Or is it :r::d::mp::df::lk:?
I feel like I can’t make the link if I try to input the DP after the cr.MP. Either it won’t link and I’ll miss my reset, or I get a hadouken when I down, forward, down, down-forward.
You do this:
press down and WHILE pressing MP, do your DP motion so you can hit LK right after.
Also, to original poster:
Try getting used to a stick on a game you’ve never played before. I didn’t have a stick until Christmas, when I got Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Since I had never played the game on a a pad (and actually still haven’t), I had no choice but to use a stick. When it’s all you’ve got, you’ll learn pretty quick.
FlyMike that joystick is 
to be fair though, i’m saying that from age 5 on world warrior up until a few months ago i ALWAYS stuck to pad, so sfiv on pad was natural, while stick was a learning experience. I’m actually still better on pad, which is funny since it’s not the pad that i’m used to (an old/broken ps2 pad with maximum softness everywhere, so comfy).
keep playing though, you’ll start getting it to click
lol.
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i remember that bit, cant do sod all with stick and pad dont feel right no more.
im up to the bit where i just cant get shit to work right in certain places or at certain times.
one really weird thing i have noticed since switching to stick is that things which you could just do - dush,dush,dush - on a pad require a lot more timeing on a stick.
i guess it is because it is so much more responsive and accessable.
eg
ryu
j.hk , c.hp , ex tatsu
on pad that is 1 2 3
on stick its hit j.hk
wait a little c.hp
super quick into ex tatsu
Haha thanks for the props and suggestions guys.
I’d just like to say that I have went cold turkey on the stick since receiving it a month ago. Tournies, Ranbats, Casuals, all on stick since then(except 1st week.) I still don’t like to take those losses, especially against people who are idiots and actually think they’ve beaten you and you’re like, “Cmon man, are you serious?” I also had no other choice. I hate PS3 pad for like anything except Tek. And my PS2 pad broke right before the tourney where I got “Booty Stick”. I always used PS2 pad + inPin. So maybe it was a sign. But I still bought a PS1 pad over the weekend because I needed it to play T6BR at the arcade. We have pad ports on ours, so yea I was gonna use them lol.
I know there is no magic solution except play and practice, I just thought that maybe I was doing it wrong or something.
I doubt I play Tekken on stick unless I just get really comfortable on stick. Everytime I play DR or BR it’s with pad, although I feel I can play Tek better on stick than SF. Many Tekken players are pad players and I’ve yet to hear of any significant stick>pad advantages in that game. I also used to play GG competitively. I can’t imagine using a stick for that. What with all of the IAD and movement required in that game. I don’t even like to think of experiencing that…
I like the suggestion of playing a “new” game with stick. Maybe KOFXII because I played BB and didn’t like it. GG>BB. But I kind of liked playing HDR a bit more because of the stricter inputs and not the shortcuts in SFIV. I thought maybe that’d force me to learn faster. Dunno. I’d def play unforgiving ST if I had it.
Thanks though guys. Every post is considered. And I know I should just practice and play. A hell of a lot. But I don’t have much time for games these days. But like VF4 said, even 10 mins a day is something. I just fucking hate converting at THIS time. SF4 going on, console BB, KOF, and BR dropping, etc. I kind of wished I would’ve learned stick during a “dead time/era”. Like last year or before when I didn’t care about shit but old ass DR and pad GGAC. But it’s all good. Hard work ahead…
Yeah, I had “that” luck. Started with stick since I found out about GGPO and ST.
All I can say is that one week with 30 hours of practice vs 1 month with 1 hours each day, the long approach yields a much better improvement for the amount of time invested. Of course, 4 weeks of 30 hours each is even better but that’s not feasible as a regular person… or in my case, not fun at all.
I post this all the time in all the new stick playing threads.
It’s funny, you like pad, and after the initial “Wow, I suck on stick”, I went to “What the fuck is a pad?” When I started, I couldn’t DP consistently on the right side. To help quicken the process, I just sat in training and ran combos for hours to get my hand dexterity up. I would keep doing it until I got in 10-20 times in a row and then slowly increase combo and execution difficulty.
my advice: SUCK IT UP.
ive been in both of your positions.
imagine having to get used to xbox 360 pad,ps2 pad, snes pad, american stick, jap stick, korean stick…
i’ve played on and gotten used to ALL of these formats.
theres really no getting used to a certain type of stick or pad… its getting used to the stick or pad that you are CURRENTLY using.
its always a struggle to figure out new stuff, but myself as well as others do it all the time.
if you really want to be competitive like being able to go to different arcades, your going to have to form this type of mentality.
v94 out here used korean sticks for the first 4 months that sf4 was out, but everyone adjusted (korean sticks are like a combination of american sticks and jap sticks but feels differently from either)
the current jap sticks that v 94 has feel different than the ones that are used at arcade infinity… i can play on both…
also for me, i have WAY more problems getting used to different button layouts of different games and going from one to another ie: streetfighter, soulcalibur, kof, tekken, and BB all have different button layouts…
and on some totally unrelated stuff, 2 button and one button throws justkill me when going from one game to the other for like the first 2 hours after switching :mad:
just practice and dont give up :tup:
-dime
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