Basically This Thread is going to turn into an Updated CHANGES list from patch to patch
LIST OF CHANGES FROM ULTIMATE
Health increased to 830,000.
Decreased hit stun time on all normal attacks (L,M,H).
Slightly increased horizontal air knockback from Shippuga.
Applied limit on number of air Hyper Zero Blaster that can be performed in one jump.
Can cancel moves into Max Hyper Zero Blaster (except for Hyper Combos).
Max Hyper Zero Blaster no longer causes untechable knockdown.
Ground recovery time increased after Sentsuizan.
Changed angle of Sentsuizan H.
Raikousen will go behind an opponent in the corner.
I doubt that buster nerf, and even if its true Zero can do big combos without it anyway.
Really, I think the biggest nerfs that they could make to Zero is nerfing his best friends like Dante or Sentinel. If the Zero/Dante DHC doesn’t work, that hurts. If Drones assist or Jam Session is affected by hitstun scaling now, that hurts, etc. I highly doubt Zero will lose anything that makes him good.
I’ve been watching some of the comic con stream and it looks like Zeros lvl 3 buster now causes a soft knockdown instead of a hard one. A slight nerf but doesn’t seem too bad. Haven’t noticed any other changes yet as haven’t seen many zeros on the stream.
Well, if it changed to soft knockdown we just lose de ability to combo Rekkoha straight from the buster and have a little less time to mount an offensive after a successful buster and everything else remains the same, right?
basically, now Buster does the same hitstun of Raikousen, right?
waiting to see what new move/moves they gave him not being able to combo rekkhoa from buster is going to blow severely. I’m still going to play him…just hoping i can rock him and Hiryu on the same team.
What did they do to remove the D-Loop? I can only imagine there would have to be a way to compensate for what was changed unless what they did was very specific to the D-Loop.
Anyone know if the lightning loop has been removed as well? I doubt anyone who’s previewed the game at Comic Con so far even has the excution to test it out. But, as long as buster and raikousen remain impervious to hit stun degredation, it should still be there. I doubt that’s the case though.
If the d-loop no longer works, that must mean sentsuizan hit stun scaling kicks in much sooner. Meaning combos that currently end with sentsuizan (such as after lightning) are gonna be much harder if not impossible. I know there’s discussion in one of the threads already as to why sometimes characters pop out of the combo when trying to end it with sentsuizan. (Unless the loop no longer works for another reason?)
I wonder what else beside faster rekkoha Zero is gonna get to compensate for the nerfs confirmed so far. I always wanted 850 health… [unrelated: shame Sigma didn’t make the cut]
Also, anyone know if the MMH air loop is gone too?
what is the logic behind removing the Dloop?? it’s not even a game breaking loop-x23’s is even more deadly. If the lightning loop is removed and zero gets no notable buffs, I’m so dropping this game…
where you watching people playing with zero and trying D-loop? I just watched for an hour… and can´te even seen people doing a combo with Charge lvl3 to see how it looks now… I just see people mashing… or dying without playing with zero…
I’m with Dc. until someone who actually knows how to play the game can confirm somethings i’m not gonna worry or panic about anything. if d loop is gone fine. if lightning loop is gone fine. they just better give him a way to deal some significant damage because a 400k bnb isn’t going to cut it. although it might not be such a bad thing. with my current team set up i don’t rely on ride the lightning or the extended bnb…its just interesting to me why they took the ability to combo off of buster away…yet Hiryu can combo off of his orb toss which looks just like buster shot.
Has anyone been noticing that combo’s seem to push characters a lot further than before compared to Vanilla MvC3. I don’t know what causes it obviously but if it makes for shorter combo’s, on top of what he’s lost so far and haven’t heard of any buffs, it sounds like he’ll get hurt big time.