There is no 100/0 in this game. At all. Stone dunk is throw bait, his meteor smash CAN be anti-aired, and his throws don’t reach full screen and aren’t safe. Kara canceled however you can inprove the distance, but still no safety.
To escape his welcome mixup, you just don’t press buttons when you’re in the air. When you reach the ground you react to his ground Command throw.
Man all this makes me wanna play more Skrull. I love Command grab chars cause im a predicting mofo so Skrull would fit in nicely. Too many chars im learning X_X
I’m hella confident in my Doom without assists especially if I got XF2/3. You can make it work especially once you get in. F.Champ has taken down 3 characters with no XF Doom before. It’s not super ideal like Magneto without assists but it gets the job done if you play patient and get in.
F.Champ has proven that you don’t need a miracle anchor to win consistently. Long as you have top tier utility and the top of your team is stacked…you can make things happen.
Oh and you guys talking about Vergil without meter are just crazy. You do realize as long as you hold on to your XF there’s no way Vergil can’t have meter right? Please tell me this. If you hit one character and pop XF3 the amount of meter you’re going to build by the time they die is all you need to get going.
You can’t have Wesker as top anchor but not have Vergil there. Just can’t do it. Wesker is just as garbage on incoming as Vergil any way. As long as you meaty Wesker he’s not going to be able to teleport without dying.
How do you react to it? The animation of your character brutally being slammed into the ground?
It’ll grab you on frame 1 of landing, there is a jumping animation if you were holding up, but it will grab you.
Obviously, if timed perfectly.
That I understand but i’m saying that overall when it comes to who can run it back those charecters who are better with meter like vergil dormammu etc are also better in the 2nd slot whereas charecters like mags and felicia are better at the 1st slot. I agree with what you saying but i’m just basing what i seen in that post of an observation from the posters theory.
That is not true, i am almost sure that even when you are pressuring your opponent as long as your hits conect(even if they are blocked) you still build meter, That bitch with Spiral swords(aka the best level 1 hyper in the game) is almost uncounterable when in x-factor, he can do a left right mixups, and in XF3 his rapid slash is + on block, and god saves you if he has enough abr to be in Devil Trigger, i usually have 3 too 4 bars if i use vergil as an anchor, and thats enough to kill a complete team.
Please explain yourself when saying that when you hold on your XF vergil doesn’t build bar, i don’t understand how does XF negates Vergil from building meter.
I’m not talking about x-factor though. Someone said doom is a good solo character, which is just flat out wrong no matter how you look at it. Don’t fool yourself dj. You’ve played enough doom at this point to have recognized blatant flaws in dooms mobility and how that leads to very very bad matchups, which can only be overcome with assists. For the record, fchamp is considered one of the best players. Combofiend makes spencer look fucking amazing as a solo character with no assists, but we know that’s just not true.
Man just pick who you want as an anchor and win with them…if somebody wants to go against the grain an run something general consensus says shouldnt work and they can MAKE it work then let em run it.
Skrull has three different versions of his Elastic Slam. You are getting hit by his ground one, not his air one.
Once again, don’t press buttons on incoming, and you won’t get hit by the air one. The Ground one does not go full screen, can be beat by many things, can be ducked under,etc. Skrull players just have to make a prediction on which one to use, if/when to kara cancel his Command throw to make it seem like it’s unblockable.
Worse comes to worse you can always Xfactor cancel the first frame of a command grab to escape it.
You do the ground one and grab them on frame 1 of landing. If you space it right with his M one youre going to grab them. It cant be ducked under, idk where you got that idea from but it will grab you.
The AA one will whiff if you don’t push any buttons on incoming, yes, so will any other command grab. As soon as you hit the ground you’re vulnerable to the M one, if timed right you’re going to get grabbed and into a skrull combo.
I didn’t know that you could xfc a command grab after you got grabbed by it, that seems a little rediculous…
I’ve ducked under Skrulls’ command grabs as Rocket Raccoon before, it’s possible.
Interesting, I’ll have to check that out, I’m a bit skeptical on it.
Indeed you can, it has to be the first frame. It’s as ridiculous as Getting Skrull’s ground throw on the first frame of landing, if it’s truely possible. 
Couldn’t you just hold up when you land and be unthrowable by his ground throw?
Well with RR you can also rocket skates away iirc.
I didn’t know you could just XF to break it, interesting, atleast they’re forced to burn their XF if they can do that in one frame on reaction.
if its timed right no, you’ll still have the jump frame and even if you jump you can still get AA command grabbed.
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My cousin plays Skrull and at this point I can read the timing. Just practice against it and you’ll see. I go up and grab him all the time. You’d be surprised by the moves that beat it. Even if he goes inferno, dps can beat it.
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dps go trough inferno? well my main team lascks dps so it doesn´t matter, but iwill learn zero so if ryuenjin counters that is a great help.
Basically most moves with decent invincibility frames will at least trade. Skrull is vulnerable in the flames but the flames cover him
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Throwing out inferno randomly is just silly. The grab will grab you on frame 1 of landing if timed perfectly no matter what, there’s no getting around that. Obviously, you can do things to come in (like helm breaker with vergil) but when skrull has you coming in, you are subject to whatever he wants. He has tools a plenty to make your life a living hell.
So you are saying skrulls don’t do metoer mash and if they whiff they don’t throw random infernos? at least 9 of 10 skrulls do that.
I no order I think
Strider
Vergil
Ammy
Magneto