UMvC3 - List of Changes

[pow3r]

Why all the Hulk hate?

[GomuGomu]

Why are you so salty about wesker. No one in this thread is crying about their character to be honest (at least i haven’t seen it). Wesker is a good character that has some really good mixups, crazy normals, and great 1 frame command grabs. He also got a health nerf and his lvl 1’s suck. The point of this game is trying to make characters balanced. No one has said that wesker isnt going to be good anymore, because i think that’s just ridiculous

Rhino Charge does not suck.

[Jamp]

It’s a new move. I think it’s in one of the recorded streams, it steals 1/3 of the opponent’s meter on hit.

Whoah, WHAT?! This sounds insane! I wonder if you can fly cancel them and fill the screen with delicious meter-stealing projectiles.

Can’t wait to try the new Morrigan out.

[Joe_Yabuki]

Wait, what? Is Morrigan a character in this game?

[gottnoskill]

If its true that Viper can no longer do her EX.moves after a special move that will be a big big debuff for her.

It was kind of unnecessary that she could cancel out of medium thunderknuckle into EX.TK. Easy easy hit-confirm. Kept Viper players from actually doing the more difficult thing (which viper is all about) and actually going into seismo instead of medium TK ex.TK and doing something from there. That and full screen Medium Thunderknuckle kara EX.Seismo. Best poke in the game.

My gripe is I was just getting use to her amazing burning kick game but to make any of those safe (sans the st.H BK) You must either burn an EX meter (special move cancel out of BK into EX.whatever) or put an assist out there (a slow one at that). Her true BK game is already execution heavy enough and the setup is very meaty and if noticed by opponent can get both of your characters destroyed so fast. Most of her burning kicks can also get jabbed or hit out because of the slow start-up across screen. Any blockstring attempts for a BK setup are damn slow so Advance guard disrupts most things.

Fun times :[ looks like I’ll have to find a new way to implement it. Maybe this new mysterious move is so good that she didn’t need special cancels into EX moves anymore. Or most likely is charged seismos (half joking).

[eVo]

Mags can do way more than just six in vanilla. I agree with nerfing grav loop since it just built so much goddamn meter. I hope ROM is still solid though because its a great comvo after random air to air hit to carry into the corner.

Just to elaborate on this Magneto stuff, a couple things I noticed about Magneto while watching stream contrary to what people are saying…

In this CURRENT BUILD Magneto still looks very strong. His high low mix up game is still dangerous as hell as his airdash is the SAME SPEED it is just shortened in length. Disruptah is still very fast and very good. Even if they slowed it down a bit it is still a dominant projectile. His new Attract/Repel special comes out rather fast and works with him very well it seems . Haven’t seen anyone do this yet im but im thinking after an airdash loop after a standing H you could probably xx S. H into attract then xx Mag shockwave so it pulls the opponent close for max hits on shockwave. Just a theory not sure if it will work.

He is still a beast

[eVo]

Nice buff for Doom. I wonder if the animation is the same and knocks them clear across the screen. If so that could definitely buff his corner game since he could easily get serious damage combos more easily since he’d be able to theoretically pick them up by dashing in first.

The main thing I don’t like about Hulk’s H is that it’s cancellable on hit/block/whiff into any of his other stupid ass special moves that also have armor somewhere in the middle or some super that’s invincible for 70 frames. LOL. I pretty much had to play like a bitch and shoot shit all day while** mashing on reverb shock if he got to close** since that’s Dante’s only safe multi hitting move. He won’t have any problem with Dante’s hammer at all now that he has 3 points of armor to beat it out with and the one point already did a pretty good job. X-23 will have no choice but to run away while hoping he doesn’t mash on gamma wave/tsunami to kill her assists.

That shit is my best friend against hulk mashers…

[Noble_Cactus]

my thoughts as well, pretty much the only success i had beating hulks armour was with hsien ko multi hitting j.H or s.H, but now i cant even do that anymore.

I think Ko’s j.:h: hits are faster now or something like that, so that may be viable against Hulk Smash!, though that’s subject to testing.

Edit: Giving hulk more armor on his s.H is pretty sick, but considering thats the only thing that hulk has besides his j.S mixups its kind of ridculous. Bait out s.H and punish. its not that hard, seriously

That’s why I said this is a step in the wrong direction. It doesn’t really solve any of Hulk’s problems in the long run.

[F0xhound009]

Storm can combo a whirlwind after a hailstorm

[quixotegut]

Some new stuff to add to the list:

Nerdjosh discovered a new move for She-hulk. :qcb:+:h: has her get a light pole (with street signs) and swings it like a baseball bat. It appears to have armor but has very slow recovery.

Hulk’s s.:h: now has 3 hit hyper armor. This has been tested several times to be sure. However his gamma wave xx gamma crush cancel in the corner requires much tighter timing as the opponent rolls out of the gamma wave hit much faster now.

HELL TO THE FUCK YES! And that’s kinda shitty about the window for G-Crush off a OTG Wave… but whatever… HYPER ARMOR :H:!!!

Edit: :h: hate can suck a nut… given that you had to work hellaciously hard to get in on sombody just to get blown up by normals that could be spammed through :h:, has a massive hit box and a very un-Hulk like presence in general any buff he gets is awesome.

Calling a Hulk user scrubby for relying on :h: is no better than Wesker users pop-gunning all match or a Zero user hiding behind j.:d::h: or any one of his other, high-priority, normals.

2nd Edit: If they didn’t buff his Gamma Charges to negate projectiles, then I can see where people are coming from about long term changes to Hulk.

I’d rather use Hulk than be a tier whore.

[eVo]

HELL TO THE FUCK YES! And that’s kinda shitty about the window for G-Crush off a OTG Wave… but whatever… HYPER ARMOR :H:!!!

Edit: :h: hate can suck a nut… given that you had to work hellaciously hard to get in on sombody just to get blown up by normals that could be spammed through :h:, has a massive hit box and a very un-Hulk like presence in general any buff he gets is awesome.

Calling a Hulk user scrubby for relying on :h: is no better than Wesker users pop-gunning all match or a Zero user hiding behind j.:d::h: or any one of his other, high-priority, normals.

I’d rather use Hulk than be a tier whore.

I think the problem that people are having with the S. H hyper armor is that instead of buffing one of his already good moves, people would like to see Hulk’s game expand in the form of another way to get in etc…

[v1nhsta]

really give hulk more armor?? so he can just mash H more? wow capcom really is stupid as fuck

because hulk is already so dominant already? are you mad that you cant bait hulk players into swinging and punishing ? thats not capcoms problem , thats your problem buddy. everyone who is saying “wow , now noobs can mash h” if you get hit by noobs spamming h , then you arent very good to begin with and have absolutely no right to call anyone a noob. the truth hurts , i know .

[quixotegut]

I think the problem that people are having with the S. H hyper armor is that instead of buffing one of his already good moves, people would like to see Hulk’s game expand in the form of another way to get in etc…

Understandable. But, tbh, they can’t really do much else for him aside from tack armor, physical or projectile, onto things. He’s the Hulk, he’s just brute strength and rage. Unlimited strength, invulnerability, speed, and health regenerative powers… he’s freaking indestructable! His character SHOULD reflect that… to a non-broken extent.

Edit: Maybe if he had some faster normal options, or a multi-hit, to hitconform like the rest of the faster characters in the game then he wouldn’t need :h: armor, but he gets beat out BY AMLMOST EVERYTHING normal wise, and most mix-up tactics will break him open.

I just think that people are pissed that he’s no longer semi-free and have to think/work harder to get the win.

[THEQUEENOFLOVEHD]

Hulk scrubs rejoice!

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

Well I must be the only Trish player to notice some changes:

Twitch

Starts @ 1 hour 13 minutes

-Startup on low voltage REDUCED !!! (you really see it around 1hr15min)
-Recovery on hopscotch ground/air REDUCED
-Recovery on peekaboo ground/air REDUCED (also calling assist cancels her “I got you you” for some reason)
-Round trip still same speed
-Peekaboo assist faster

wow.

[Stratoforce]

Hulk scrubs rejoice!

Bad players post bad trolling response rage!

Loving all the Hulk hate. Come at me Bros.

[Justin3201]

So hulk got hyper armor on sH than super armor? These hyper armors are probably slow so just punish with addf. IDk. Magneto rom is useless now since it works in the corner and hyper grav loop works and is easier. Also all his bnb just got harder to do? Is magneto’s attraction comboable? What’s so special about Wolverine swiss cheeze? I didn’t get to watch the whole stream.

[Jae_The_One]

Well I must be the only Trish player to notice some changes:
http://www.twitch.tv/marquezsf/b/290895534

Starts @ 1 hour 13 minutes

-Startup on low voltage REDUCED !!! (you really see it around 1hr15min)
-Recovery on hopscotch ground/air REDUCED
-Recovery on peekaboo ground/air REDUCED (also calling assist cancels her “I got you you” for some reason)
-Round trip still same speed
-Peekaboo assist faster

wow.

yes!!!

[quixotegut]

Bad players post bad trolling response rage!

Loving all the Hulk hate. Come at me Bros.

Hulk-hate is probably the most hilariously wasted hate to toss around. It’s like the salt you throw over your should after spilling salt.

Salt jokes.

[THEQUEENOFLOVEHD]

No one hates hulk, bad character is still bad :<

Hulk is not a threat and never will be…unless it’s online. goml

Well I must be the only Trish player to notice some changes:
*http://www.twitch.tv/marquezsf/b/290895534

Starts @ 1 hour 13 minutes

-Startup on low voltage REDUCED !!! (you really see it around 1hr15min)
-Recovery on hopscotch ground/air REDUCED
-Recovery on peekaboo ground/air REDUCED (also calling assist cancels her “I got you you” for some reason)
-Round trip still same speed
-Peekaboo assist faster

wow.

YES!!!