Yeah, but which characters do you absolutely feel are missing from the Capcom side besides a version of Mega Man?
What is Capcom trying to promote by putting Viewtiful Joe, Arthur, Firebrand, pre-reboot DMC, Strider, Darkstalkers, Spencer, and so on in this game? Who is really missing and how would they work in this game? Most people want characters and don’t think about how a moveset would apply and differentiate the character. Even Vergil is pretty damn unique in his own way and extremely popular. The only character I look at on the Capcom side and go why is this person repping a certain franchise is Trish, but they made her more memorable in this than she’s ever been in the games. What do you feel is lacking in the cast? You don’t like the game mechanics fine, but I want to hear what’s wrong with the cast.
There’s no surprises, I get bored just looking at them, I’ve been looking at them for the past ten years. I mean, let’s just look at capcoms roster, pick the main and most generic characters out of their most popular franchises and there you go you’ve pretty much got the whole cast. You could have predicted it on a back of a napkin on a drunken night out at a strip club.
For example. Chis, Jill and Wesker are all RE5, and Nemesis is reappearing in ORC. Why just paste all the characters from the same game? Why not Leon Kennedy? Or Hunk? Even the Darkstalkers, out of all the Darkstalkers they picked Morrigan and Felicia. They finally had an opportunity to try something new with Darkstalkers, and they picked Morrigan and Felicia? Hsien-Ko is kind of cool, I guess, not as cool as Jedah, or Bishamon, or Anakarais, or Zabel, or Sasquach, or Phobos, but cool I guess… It’s just the main characters, from the main games, from the past two generations… If you want some idea flick through the heroes and heralds card book to get an idea on what I think would have made a more interesting, less predictable and more exciting cast.
This is a development costs issue. MVC3 and UMVC3 are built in the same MT Framework base engine in which Resident Evil 5 is built. There’s a reason that Jill’s moves are so eerily precise-familiar from her cutscene fight with Chris – it’s a resource question. The resources for Chris, battle suit Jill, and Wesker were all more or less present in an engine-compatible format. (This is theoretically also true of Dead Rising which ran on an ancient version of MT, but poor aging on Dead Rising’s assets might well have been a reason for ultimately dropping Frank in Vanilla.)
Nemesis is coming in ORC, as you say, and I don’t know if we know the engine on that particular game; I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s another MT Framework resource double-dip, though.
Edit for clarity about the Frank drop being vanilla-specific.
Well there’s another reason to hate the capcom cast, sheer laziness… You know, this was an opportunity for capcom to use some really unique IPs which have amazing fighting game potential and they chose the most generic characters possible. Even the marvel cast bores me to an extent. How many green skinned, skull faced, flaming Torch head characters do you need? Seven? Okay, that’s not that many, but it still irritates me. I find my self playing the classics more often because not only do I enjoy the cast more, but they’re more colourful (imo) and in some cases (mvc) they come from more unique IPs. It kind of defeats the whole point in making the game if it encourages me to go back to their older titles.
The characters i wish for the most is Guile, Captain commando and Cable.
Guile has move sets that are different from any one in this cast so he is a unique character undoubtedly. Even if people feel that we have too much SF reps, Guile is an exemption. Everyone talks about Mascots and Popularity, and guile should get that respect. He has been an iconic figure with in capcom and the SF games for a while. Jean Claude Van Damme played him! Above all reasons, this game needs his theme.
Captain Commando maybe redundant due to cviper, but Zero was thought of as the Strider replacement during Vanilla. Look at how it turns out now! People feel megaman should be in the game (i can’t disagree) due to being capcom’s mascot, but Commando was a mascot to and he was more popular than Megaman to MVC fans. It also brings allot of nostaligia due to the impact he had with the past series and being on of the best BFF characters (with Sentinel) in the history of the series. New blood is good, but lets keep our classics alive especially Capcom.
Cable: 3 god tiers only? It was the 4 gods that made marvel 2 10 years strong. He just makes the MVC roster complete to me because the iconic mvc figures are all in this game.
>> The rest doesn’t matter, a black guy, random females, new characters, villains… whatever.
Monster Hunter
"The hunt is on!" ( one of Monster Hunter’s intro quotes)
Monster Hunter is a character who hunts huge and dangerous monsters. Monster Hunter’s moveset is based on his Greatsword attacks and hunting tools
Shock Trap: Hunter sets a trap which causes electric damage on enemy.
Bomb: Hunter sets a bomb which explodes after a while. Detonation time and damage bases on button used (L = short, small damage, M = both medium and H= long, high damage)
Felyne Comrade: Hunter’s best friend and acts as a projectile. Hunter points at the target (quick animation) and Felyne Comrade makes a jump attack on enemy and quickly drops back.
Potion: Hunter can drink a potion for a temporary buff (and perhaps a heal). Just like in Monster Hunter series, this move has a long animation, so use it wisely.
Hyper Combos:
Hunter Combo: Hunter does a powerful 3-hit combo with his Greatsword.
The King of Skies: Hunter hits the deck. The iconic monster of Monster Hunter-series called Rathalos flies by while breathing fire
Lv3) The Proof of a Hero: Hunter calls 3 other hunters for an all-out attack. 1 hunter uses Dual Swords and other 2 use Bowgun and Bow and Arrow.
“You should join me on a Wyvern hunt someday. You could learn something!” (Monster Hunter’s victory line to Dante)
…Or something like that.
E: Ha, PKSkyler also suggested Monster Hunter. highfive
Ms. Marvel should have been in, but they gave her moveset to Nova. Still would like to see what they could do with her. A binary power-up? Projectile absorbing? Endless possibilities really.
I would also like DLC Phoenix with 750K health and no Dark Phoenix activation. That would be easy DLC I would think.
Cyclops and Psylocke would be welcome returns from MVC2 and I’m interested to see what moveset they would come up with for them.
Other Marvel characters of interest (slightly less than the aforementioned) are Dazzler, Loki (male with female alt maybe?), Silver Surfer, Ares, Black Bolt, and Medusa.
If you think predictable is a bad thing then I guess that’s an issue. Personally I knew hardly anything of Capcoms properties and think they did a bang up job with their characters. The marvel characters I like too. I do wish they handled their designs a little better however. I wanted to see more COTA ish’ treatment with the creativity in moves.
For the Capcom side I would like to see Megaman X ,Sigma,Hayato,and Captain Commando. For Marvel, I’d really like to see Cyclops, Psylocke,Venom and/or Carnage.
