Ultra Street Fighter 4 | General Lounge

The more I think of the changes the more I think the new mechanics are too defense focused which will make for a very boring defensive game. If theres delayed get ups, then thatll make for a ton of boring matches. Maybe the tournament players will make the game look good, but casual matches will be boring as hell.

I am still waiting on a Canadian street fighter, for fuck’s sake

To say people are asking for Alex and Karin because everyone else does is pretty stupid. Alex, the main character of SF3, should have already been in. People have been asking for him for the LONGEST time to make an appearance in this game yet they won’t do it. Karin has also been wanted to make another appearance for a while. Everybody expected her to be in SF X TK since she could be partners with Sakura. It was perfect and yet Capcom didn’t do it. These characters are also extremely popular overall yet we get characters like Oni and Evil Ryu who nobody asked for.

With the way they are hyping up the 5th character, a doll would be extremely disappointing as she would more than likely borrow a lot from Cammy. There are some people, believe it or not, who like Alex and Karin for the character(I’m included). Sakura Ganbaru was a great manga. Karin was number one on the popularity poll a few months before the announcement of Ultra and yet she wasn’t added. Ayano even acknowledged it. Whether or not Fei Long and Karin would be similar is irrelevant seeing as how we keep getting Shotos and people seem fine with that. They’ve have tons of opportunities to add these characters that people want yet for some reason, they just won’t do it.

I think I read somewhere that the reason for not including Karin is that she’s owned by the author of the Sakura ganbaru manga. I’m not entirely sure about that though since it was a while ago that I read it.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about SonSon! Which is a shame because she was on one of my dick around MvC2 teams back in the day. I’d be all over her making a comeback.

the only reason why people are asking for Karin is because they want a waifu rekka character.

karin also has a chicken wing like move (done with tk motion too) and a command grab.

she adds nothing that other rekka characters wont.

fei long = footsies, strong pokes

abel = mixups

yang = dive kicks

rolento = runaway

Isn’t she in the same situation Strider was in regarding Marvel 3?

I definitely do NOT want Karin, what a boring character. Why can’t you weeaboos be happy with Sakura? I’d much rather see Decapre than Karin.

That stance makes literally no sense though.

MODS!! MODS!! CHANGE HIS USER NAME TO SHERLOCK HOLMES!

THIS MOTHERFUCKER DONE SOLVED A MYSTERY

I don’t like Sakura never have, generally I loathe schoolgirl characters. I liked Karin cause she was fun to play, despite not being big into her look. She had so many options, think of her as a rekka Akuma. Great varied normals, high and low counters, a 360 throw, the high risk palm strike with godlike priority, ton of rekka variations…do you go the regular 3ps for corner carry, do you end with an up kick to juggle the opponent in the air for follow ups, go with the elbows which u can delay the timing on to catch counters, do you end with the slide kick since it hits low, or do u end with the overhead cause they are holding down back? It isn’t your boring ass Rolento or Fei same 3 moves in a row, rekka, rekka, yawn.

Liking a character is a matter of taste, but anyone who thinks Karin is boring or a rekka clone that brings nothing to the table obviously has never played her.

How so?

Perhaps if you explained your stance. From what i can observe, it seems like you dont want Karin because “She’s just another school girl” since you referenced that Sakura should be enough. On the contrary, Decapre would be “Just another doll” like Cammy, Juni, and Juli. If you want to really stretch it, you could say Decapre would be “A female vega clone.”.

So i think whats going on is he believe your stance to be hypocritical, since wanting another doll is pretty much the same line of thinking as wanting another school girl character as both character types share/borrow traits with/from pre-existing characters.

I personally feel like Viper’s looks is a failure of capcom, she looks chunky and ugly. Udon makes her look super hot.

I wish Udon Viper was in SFIV…

That is because in SF4, they took her chest, and made it look like a hamburger if you just took some string and pressed really hard down the middle. It looks fine in marvel and everything else though. I dont like her legs for some reason though. There aint nothing wrong with some chunk but Viper just lookes weird in 4.

Well, SF4 models aren’t exactly beautiful or well proportioned anyway.
Some outfits just look weird, like something is out of place or too big/

Karin = Money… boatloads of fucking money and the richest laugh ever.

Aside from her specials, she has her own set of normals which I prefer to any other character I’ve played in a SF game.

Not exactly. Karin (as well as Juni and Juli) are all characters I’m already familiar with, and characters that I personally was never interested in. Decapre, on the other hand, while technically a “clone” character is completely new to the series, so part of the whole appeal is to see how they end up playing, as well as how their character development will progress, including the story element. If I wanted an old character to return to the game, it would probably be Alex, Birdie, Sodom or Urien/Gill, not Karin, but I’d much rather have a completely new character, especially if she turns out to be some kind of Cammy/Vega hybrid, I think that’s actually a pretty interesting concept.

Apparently the 5th character is a kind of Evil Cammy.

SF4 models…I don’t swing that way, but what about Ryu’s weird ass face?

Also, phrostbyte you say you weren’t ever interested in Juni or Juli. You realize those were Cammy clones, dolls if you were. So how can u be excited about Decapre. Sure we can all be excited and think, maybe she’ll have wolverine’s berszerker barrage, Vega’s claw range and wall dives, back flips, cammy normals and divekicks, but most probably she’ll be like Juni and Juli forgettable awful clones.

Alright enough about preferences. So far the rumor of the 5th character is its a doll, let’s look at the three possibilities.

  1. Decapre (Clawme) Standing for December (meaning Capcom could wait to reveal her then). Azrael who obviously has insider info and hinted at mechanics changes long before they were announced, pretty much announced the 5th is her. Considering the source, she is by far the most likely.

  2. Santamu. Standing for August, she is the only one with a hairstyle that matches the silhouette. She is the only doll I think who could really bring something new to Street fighter (which is what sources seem to indicate the 5th will bring), and that is her monkey helper. In addition having a long spear would also make her stand out. This was my pick, and easily my favorite of the dolls. Maybe the only one I wouldn’t be terribly disappointed in.

  3. Xiayu. Standing for September, this goes with the ‘Hyper’ conspiracy that was discussed. She fights with a quarter staff.