Since when? Because in AE2012 that isn’t true. You don’t gain counterhit frame advantage after a focus crumple jump in and you don’t gain counter hit damage either.
if red focus ends up being a game changing go to thing for most characters, lets give a warm welcome back to the Yun and Makoto army and the soon to be found Zangief army, i can just see it now, mofo trying to wake up red focus thinking its a safe way out, then boom, stand short into zangief super, or makoto stand fierce into command grab stand fierce ex dash punch, the glory
Pick Ken, focus lvl 3, dash, neutral jump, hp dp xx fadc xx Ultra 1. You get the full animation. Hp dp xx fadc launches the opponent upward whether it’s 1 hit or 2. 1 hit only works on CH, but it works after jumping after a focus crumple.
You can do all with all his ch setups too, like Hp dp xx fadc xx sweep , hp dp xx fadc, cr. Hp xx lk tatsu (cross under) (must time cr. Hp very early)
Its been like this since vanilla and works with the whole cast.
I like how when one of your vids finishes this pops up in the recommended vids.
I like the idea of red focus and the fact that it uses 2 bars. There are a lot of characters right now who pretty much don’t fadc at all.
I love and hate the changes at the same time,I mean,yeah,they look cool,will add new things to the game but…i don’t know,meaby the damage of both ultras are pretty shitty but just having them both is pretty scary.And the red focus seems fun but wouldn’t it be too powerfull against some characters like…uh Cammy for example? I mean with slow armor breakers
I now see where you were wrong. You think Ken is gaining counter hit properties when in fact the reason it works is because you are hitting the opponent while they are airborne then FADCing it. Ken’s HP DP adds no juggle usage on the first hit if you hit an airborne opponent. As a matter of fact with proper timing you can actually do HP SRK - FADC - U1 against a jumping opponent who isn’t attacking at all and get the full animation but only if you hit on the first 2F active.
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Ken
Once an opponent has dropped to their knees during a focus crumple they are considered airborne. What you are describing has NOTHING to do with counterhits.
This sounds like the game sf4 should be IMO. All those changes are for the better.
i am not happy at all with this
i dont know if the changes are good or not but even very good things not all people like
i mean if you stay with a game for over 3 years you dont want changes that big its like a differnt game
besides that i have the feeling they forget about the things people ask for like the ping bar, or the better search functions that you can search for europe or south,north america
To be fair, those things could still be in the game. We sti haven’t seen any of the new modes/features promised.
Having both Ultras available is very good for Dudley even if the damage is reduced. Corkscrew Cross is about closing out a round at the end of a combo so the amount of damage isn’t really the focus whilst Rolling Thunder is about having punishment options against fireballs, backdashes and certain blocked moves so it’s not really about the damage there either. Dudley players will very likely pick Ultra W for most matches. Good change for him.
Ryu players on the other hand will stick to Ultra 1. Why the fuck wouldn’t they. Fucking dumbest Ultra in the game I swear. Fuck that Ultra.
Ultra 2 juggle damage is gonna be pitifully low tho.
“We want changes…but not these ones, or those ones, and no, we don’t have any ideas on changes”.
You guys should stop being so scared of Gief with 2 Ultras and instead look at the fun shit like trying to pressure Akuma with both Ultras or trying to either jump or throw something at Adon who doesn’t give a shit about your red focus.
Dudley doesn’t need damage. He does damage. Ultra 2 will still seal off a round when you know it’ll kill and he’ll still get the hard knockdown.
It also works as an AA so there’s that.
Don´t forget Cammy and Fei Long. Also Seth I guess.
Every patch since Super people have said this. I could go through the forums and find it.
He has received nothing but buffs but still gets blown up by half the cast. I wouldn’t worry once again this patch.
Watch Capcom give DeeJay the ability to cancel Ultra 1 into Ultra 2 and call it a buff.
I’m not afraid of Red Focus, most Ibuki’s special blow up focus attacks, she like 4 options to deal with people who like to focus.
Unless you can Red Focus her target combos, that would bad/fun.
Unless this time…finally…the boastful Hakan becomes…??? Nah never mind.
Hakan’s getting buffed? Better nerf Irelia.
I Wish they would change sagats ultra 1, thats been bugging me since vanilla
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKPXPbDAW8I&feature=player_detailpage#t=17