Ultra El Fuerte

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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My glorious return !!! :smiley: ahahahahaha

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Are we ready? :open_mouth:

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Returning to SRK after 2 years.
Iā€™m ready

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4 days left and Iā€™m more than readyyy ;D

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I kinda thought there would be some comments here on the on ultra fuerte now that the game is out and everyones staying silent? Donā€™t have the game yet myself.

  • Can you now use ultras to punish DP FADC both front and backdash?
  • If sobat recovery was shaved down then it should be +6 on hit now, any luck comboing in and out of it. As in using it mid combo?
  • Some comment (donā€™t remember where) said that corpse hopping is gone, is this true? Hopefully not, it was really fun. Not to mention messing with charge characters.
  • Was there any change to that c.mp hitbox after all? Itā€™s not listed in the final changes.
  • Anything done to guacamole invincibilities? Is EX guac still as fast as it was in the loke tests (linking for a combo from +5)?
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Itā€™s aesthetically weak, but with perfect execution, the best option is probably going to be Red Focus to RSF until dizzy, and then more RSF.

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Ive managed to link Cr.MK after gordita sorbat which is really nice. Corpse hopping is character specific now. I havnt notice ne changes to guacs except the recovery on ex guac being much better. Ex guac dosnt grab grounded like in the loke test. Also I havnt noticed ne changes to cr.mp

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I canā€™t play this game due to studies but has anyone thought to use ex quess. as a viable air counter? The invul frames should make it easy to land counter hit into another quess. or fadc into close hk to guacamole. Or is everybody hating on that move? Always loved it because it stuffed Blanka balls or Dan kicks.

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Ive been having alot of success w ex qbomb. I use it as a reversal, anti air, and for run stop ex q bomb for people who like the neutral jump as fuerte runs at them. Surprisingly I was getting alot of Ch hits and when u pull that off while landing a lvl3 qbomb as the follow up it is the best feeling in the world. I had people legit crying that fuerte was over buffed lol

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So silent here, Iā€™m surprised.

I tried RSF into a new ender. s.hp x sobat, c.mk x Q-bomb. Does quite a bit more damage and stun than slide. Might be a pretty favorable way to end RSF now. I just canā€™t test it with more loops of RSF yet since get my fingers in a knot doing it from more than 2 reps.

RSF x2 x slide does 260. RSF x2 x sobat, c.mk x Q-bomb does 383. Forgot to watch the stun value.

Anyone wanna test if it works properly after more reps? Also, I did this only in the corner (vs Juri) so Iā€™m not sure how well it works on open field.

Another thing: anyone competent with c.mk loops wanna test how much damage you can get from shower kick now?
Just counting the dmg and stun values theoretically f+mk, s.lk, c.mk RS c.mk RS c.mk x Q-bomb should do 302 dmg and 450 stun.

Also, since no one has said it out loud yet, U2 can punish DP FADC front and back now. Neither ultra work on Cammy DP FADC back :frowning:

EDIT: I tried the first combo a bit more. With 3 fierces itā€™s 425 damage. The stun value of 2 reps is 570. Getting the ender on open field is a bit hard. I tried the extra tests on Honda and it was still a bit tricky so the ender might be impossible on smaller character mid-screen.

Can you follow CH EX Q-bomb with anything mid screen if you donā€™t have a lvl3 Q-bomb stocked too?

f+mk, c.lk, c.mk x Q-bomb is 231 dmg and 370 stun. With another c.lk itā€™s 225 and 380. Still interested what would happen with more c.mkā€™s in there.

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c.mk loops are way harder than RSF. I think Fuerteā€™s improved quite a bit. I never thought he was bad, but being free to throws on wake-up really hurt his potential. Iā€™d say heā€™s top 25 now that he has Q bomb as a reversal option and delayed wake-up. Wonā€™t be long for people to get into him, and for others to stop sleeping on him.

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Complying as much combo information no matter how useless they may be. Any help is welcomed, Amigos.

Link Combos

lp, lp, lp, lp, lp
123/205
lp, cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk
125/210

cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lp
105/175
cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk
106/180
cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.mk
115/210

lk, lk, lk, lk
105/175
lk, lk, lk, cr.mk
133/210

cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk
115/210
cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.mk
105/210

shower kick, cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lp
143/255
shower kick, cr.lp, cr.lk. cr.mk
145/260

far hp, mp
200/300
far hp, cr.mk
190/300

cr.hp, cr.lp
130/250

Run Stop Combos
Two reps, three reps, four reps, five reps

fierce loop - RSF
cl.hp xx run~sudden stop, cl.hp xx run~calamari slide
260/460, 322/560, 375/645, 419/715

medium kick loop - cr.mk loop
cr.mk xx run~sudden stop, cr.mk
140/200, 196/280, 245/350

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Bomb Combos
Lvl 1 Bomb, lvl 2 Bomb, lvl 3 Bomb, EX Bomb

cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb
162/250, 190/285, 211/320

cl.lk, cl.lk xx Bomb
124/180, 156/220, 180/260, 220/340
cl.lk, cl.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb
172/250, 200/285, 221/320

cr.lk, cl.lk xx Bomb
114/180,146/220, 170/260, 210/340
cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb
152/250, 180/285, 201/320

shower kick, cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb
193/320, 217/350, 235/380
shower kick, cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb
183/320, 225/380

dropkick, cr.mk xx bomb
234/380, 290/460
dropkick, cr.mk, cr.mk xx bomb
331/520

Far hp, mp xx Bomb
264/380, 296/420, 320/460, 360/540
Far hp, cr.mk xx Bomb
254/380, 286/420, 310/460, 350/578

sobat kick, cr.mk xx Bomb
241/280, 246/320, 270/360, 310/440

cr.mk xx Bomb
150/200, 190/250, 220/300, 270/400
cr.mk, cr.mk xx Bomb
204/280, 236/320, 260/360, 300/440
cr.mk, cr.mk, cr.mk, xx Bomb
301/420

fierce, sobat, cr.mk xx Bomb
282/400, 310/435, 331/470, 366/540
fierce, fierce, sobat, cr.mk xx Bomb
383/570, 413,630
fierce, fierce, fierce, sobat, cr.mk xx Bomb
425/650

*Tortilla Combos
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Reset List (work in progress)

[details=Spoiler]|cr.lp|lk|cr.lk|cr.mk|
Abel x x x -
Adon - x - -
Akuma - x x -
Balrog - - - -
Blanka - - - -
C. Viper - - - -
Cammy - x - x
Chun Li x x - -
Cody - x - x
Dan - x - -
Decapre - x - -
Dee Jay - - - -
Dhalsim - - - -
Dudley - x x -
E. Honda - - - -
El Fuerte - x - x
Elena x x - -
Evil Ryu - x x -
Fei Long - x x -
Gen - x x -
Gouken - - - -
Guile - - - -
Guy - x - x
Hakan - - - -
Hugo - - - -
Ibuki - x - x
Juri - x x -
Ken - x x -
M. Bison - - - -
Makoto - x - x
Oni - x x -
Poison x x x -
Rolento - - - -
Rose - x x -
Rufus - x - -
Ryu - x x -
Sagat - - - -
Sakura - x - x
Seth x x x -
T. Hawk - - - -
Vega - - - -
Yang - x - x
Yun - x - x
Zangief - - - -[/details]
tortilla, st.lk xx Bomb
226/280, 258/320, 282/360, 322/440, xx SUPER 493/320
tortilla, cr.mk xx Bomb
266/330, 298/370, 322/410, 362/490, xx SUPER 530/370
tortilla, st.lk xx SUPER
?
tortilla, cr.mk xx SUPER
466/250

EX Red Focus Combos
hk xx hk Quac, hk xx EX Quac, 3 Reps RSF Slide, Ultra 1, Ultra 2

cl.lk, cl.lk xx Bomb(lvl 1), RFC
306/395, 322/435, 338/500, 366/240, 403/280
shower kick, cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.mk xx Bomb(lvl 1), RFC
281/425, 289/445, 293/470, 323/360, 326/360
Far hp, mp xx Bomb(lvl 1), RFC,
414/555, 430/595, 446/660, 538/480, 511/440
fierce, fierce, fierce, sobat, RFC
427/630, 439/660, 444/695, 494/540, 498/540
tortilla, lk xx Bomb, RFC
408/495, 424/535, 440/600, 500/380, 505/380
tortilla, cr.mk xx Bomb, RFC
448/545, 464/585, 479/650, 540/430, 539/430

damage/stun

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I won a tournament by putting my chest in peoples faces

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Reserved

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God pplz online always get into my Ultra 2. it feels good.

Also when I get them with a Propeller Tortilla it feel soo good!

BTW 200 and something best fuerte on XBLA :smiley:

lol

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hey guys thinking on picking up fuerte, is he difficult to use?

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Define difficult to use.