My favorite part of this thread is when Nigga’s say Magneto is overpowered and too good. LOFL. Shit is funnier than the Black Dynamite.
Anything over 10 frames can’t be categorized as “NO START UP”. What do it’s other properties have to do with how fast it is?
Sure, it’s stupid as fuck to get shot from almost fullscreen and get combo’d afterwards for pretty much no effort, but that doesn’t mean it has “LIKE NO START UP”.
@pedoviejo: man, Black Dynamite is so good.
Other projectiles take time to travel across the screen. Wesker’s does not. Get it now? It’s not that complicated.
Magneto shouldn’t really enter into this conversation because he’s a fucking cheater :D.
Travel time = Start-up
All has been said.
Was thinking, maybe you can just let go of your dash buttons and he can still block? That’d be sorta cool…but pointless nerf if that’s true, any word? Hope he gets his air cancels back. Yea, he can ignore zoning for the most part, but a hitbox won’t make him overpowered(to the people that would make that argument). Chris gs most impressive character is ryu i think, that’s the one that wows me. Using an xfactor to kill off one guy is something i think alot of characters can do, and they’d have more left than ammy. I brought up clockwork originally but people didn’t like it
Sounds like ammy. I’d like the game to require some more matchup knowledge,strategy and planning and less “who can land their BS first?”
To accomplish this…first they’d have to lower the damage. Once again they can keep x_factor the way it is for ammy if they give back air cancel and her dash guard
When we say that something has LIKE NO START UP, of course we’re saying that the startup is too short given the other properties of the move. If your friend found a mansion for $1000 and said that it cost nothing, you would agree with him, not say “COSTS MORE THAN 5 BUCKS, CAN’T BE CATEGORIZED AS COSTS NOTHING.”
Nah because I’m a nitpicking asshole. I see what you mean though, but there’s been a lot of Wesker boohoos on this thread in the past 2 days. Feels like week 1 all over again.
Its just really stupid that Magneto can outzone characters…nay TEAMS based on zoning.
I do concur it’s dumb, but capcom seems to disagree with us, a.k.a. Give him 3 new laming out tools and only slightly nerfing his old one 
Weeeee Ultimate marvel 
Get a thicker skin. Learn to take it in stride if you play a no-skill required character because people will bitch (rightfully so).
I play Task and I’m not about to deny that he’s also fucking stupid and one-dimensional. He does way too much damage, has too much life and inflicts too much chip. Same deal as Rog in SF4. Normally such a simplistic pos wouldn’t be any good, but they decided to make the tools he does have completely ridiculous so he can compete in a hamfisted sort of way.
Capcom tailors their games so the moron demographic won’t lose interest so quickly, that much has been obvious since SF4.
It’s just a shame that the shallower characters tend to overshadow the more technical ones, that’s all.
Haha, I know… When I heard about disrupter nerf I was like “…whatever, its still good and he still has damn magnetic shockwave…”
then I heard about gravitation BS and im like “WTF NO NO NO O___O”
I mean cmon, Magneto’s whole thing is that he should be rushing shit down…his disrupter and magnetic shockwave should work like mvc2… sigh
Fuck Wesker
Man, you see that’s just being an asshole He’s not as difficult as other characters, Risk/Reward is terribly unbalanced, and he’s one of the best, but no skill? Get the hell out, lol…
surely not, ill believe it when i see it, that would mean permanent DT Dante, Sped up wolvie, heck you could even probs manage permanent slowdown ammy if you were fast enough with the meter building.
Speaking of Samurai Edge, I wonder if Wesker’s “Magic Bullet” was fixed.
well, isn’t that what Marvel is supposed to be? Stupidity to the nth degree? Magneto isn’t going to be nerfed for real any time soon. more start up on disruptor?
Just put magneto’s zoning tools back to mvc2 status and leave everything else he has the same he would be pahhhhfect
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I think he’s talking about Wesker’s bullets magically hitting crouching hsien-ko or the bullet deciding that it just doesn’t give a fuck about gong and going right through it.
I’m happy Berzerker Slash is getting looked at; it was a little too good for Wolverine in Vanilla. Other than that, it’s hard to say because Vanilla has only been out for about 7 months now; this is right about the time we are just starting to get a handle on a game, but, in this case, everything is getting re-balanced before we can figure it out. I’m cool with Ultimate being released, and will happily fork over my pesos, but I hope Capcom starts letting us have these games for a year or two before they start screwing around with them again.