Ultimate mvc3 iron man

Meh. I prefer not to play characters with divekicks.

Thanks for the welcome love. This thing about this game is that to be at higher levels you gotta put in lab time anyway. I’d rather do it with a character that I actually like than just the easy ones. Then when you break out that spontaneous KK for the first time or instinctively combo off the throw and put that Stark Tech to work it feels so much better.

Side note: I anticipate at least one good buff to IM just because they are anticipating a rise in sales as The Avengers comes out, people will want to play as IM.

Buffs I want:
-More carried momentum on his diagonal dashes. Much less recovery. Basically makes those airdashes into Spencer’s Zip line without the zip.
-Some fudging around with minimum damage scaling values. Why the hell am I barely dealing 600K damage off a Repulsor blas combot!?
-More initial hit stun on Smart Bombs. Slighty lower minimum hit stun scaling as well. Iron man had some pretty corner OTG combo extensions in vanilla thanks to that last part.
-Faster Forward/Back air dash like in the Beta? I dunno. I just wanna see how that’d turn out for him. Would make his box dashing really dumb, but IM can use some dumb.

Buffs Capcom would likely do:
-Get Seth Killian on a booth to tell the world ā€œIron Man’s amazing, he’s just underexplored.ā€ Or…
-The Captain America treatment. Derp all around. Extremely low start up on Proton Cannon, Repulsor Spread causes a wallbounce on top of a hard knockdown, Unibeam and air Unibeam can cancel into Repulsor Spread, and he gets TEH KNEEZ back, only they cause ground bounce. I wouldn’t mind the knees, actually, but not like that…

I kind of think Capcom will give him some solid buffs, because their design philosophy between games is: if a character gets a shit load of buffs from the first to second game and STILL isn’t that great, they’ll give them even more buffs. This is at least what they did in SSF4 -> AE -> 2012. He’s gonna come out of this with something, at least.

For those wondering where I got this info, its in the UMvC3 tier list discussion thread, and in several other forums. Basically, during Bum’s stream, he said something about UMvC3 getting a balance patch somepoint after EVO. This lines up with a lot of other rumors floating around, so its most likely gonna happen. Capcom isn’t good at keep things secret.

The buffs I want to see are:
-better wavedash
-more hitstun on j.H, j.dH, j.M, and j,S, for easier air to air/relaunch/and ROM style combos
-more untechable time after a Repulsar Spread. Combined with a better wavedash, this move would lead to more consistent followups then either cancelling straight into Proton Cannon, spread into Iron Avenger, or trying to link a normal afterwards which is really inconsistent.
-more damage on Proton Cannon. Its a beam super with none of the benefits of one, so it at least needs to hit harder.
-faster M and H Repulsar Blast, faster M and H Unibeam. Magneto exists, so why the fuck not?

buffs I’d like to see but are unlikely:
-Really good ADDF
-Special moves become flight cancellable
-KNEE DIVE

It would be funny if Capcom just buffs the shit out of all the Avengers for the movie. Thor, Iron Man and Hulk could all use some love. Captain America is already good, and Hawkeye is arguably the best Avenger in this game, which is horseshit as any of those characters could put Clint in the trashcan, but unfortunately canonical power doesn’t mean much in this game, if it did Shuma Gorath wouldn’t be shit. :frowning:

I leant the game away for a month a half and stopped checking up on this thread. Glad to see that the Iron Man section is not only active but apparantly drawing new players in :slight_smile:
As for playing Tony, I’m decent at this game, repulsor blast I would say is one of his best tools on defense/neutral(if there is neutral in this crazy game xD/offense, since it is so incredibly safe even on whiff (unless you have a beam super). It sucks the opponent in for free damage or combos, and you can blow them away with spread, which is one button now.
How long has this patch been officially unofficially confirmed btw?

A week or two. Supposedly coming out after evo.

Oh yea, new change for the patch; bring back old hit stun on smart bombs, but leave Tony with his new recovery speed. Smart bomb getting less hitstun hurts him a lot with regards to midscreen combos that go into proton cannon, and hurt him a lot in the corner when doing smart bomb>Iron Avenger.

Smart Bombs seem fine to me in this game, they are a lot better than in Vanilla. The only issue is learning the timing after H Smart Bombs to do Proton Cannon/Angled Proton Cannon, or cancelling immediately into Iron Avenger. Its an easy fix in training mode. Air Smart Bombs is arguably this characters best tool besides Repulsar Blast.

I wish that smart bombs had more hitstun for use in the neutral game. If they had their increased hitstun from vanilla, it would be more possible to directly convert a smart bomb hit into a combo.

Funny, I find it rather easy to confirm off of smart bombs… Even sometimes air to air.

Yeah if you’re good with your super jump height any air combos Smart Bomb can be confirmed into air combos.

For me, I have to ask myself this question, ā€œIf Iron man receives any buffs, do you honestly feel that you’re going to do better playing with the character?ā€ I’m not going to sit here and wait for Capcom to hold my hand. If I want to play Iron Man, I have to play him as he is. It’s nice and all to have wishful thinking and whatnot, but you can’t expect that, oh, IM is going to get this move, he’s going to be top tier now. To me, that doesn’t sound like a good player. Those are my $0.02

I play Iron Man purely out of character loyalty. I will never stop playing him no matter how bad he sucks because he is my favorite character. It’s also because he’s my favorite character that I want him to be more capable of pwnage than he is right now.

Quote for the ENTIRE thread. Jesus, couldn’t be worded any better than that. Except that I BOUGHT the games(s) because he’s in it xD, so I have to play him no matter what.

With all do respect my good friend, that’s not my intention. I just wanted to restart discussion in a dead thread, and discussing what buffs you want to Iron Man seemed like a good way to do that. Its not like I’m basing my practice time with Tony on buffs I don’t even know he will receive. And I don’t think it makes people bad players for discussing what buffs they’d like for their character when a balance patch has been leaked to be in the pipeline in the future.

I agree 100%. Deadpool and Iron Man are my favorite Marvel characters. Chris and Morrigan are my favorites on the Capcom side, but neither character really works within the framework of this team. After trying Sentinel for awhile, I’ve found the character that completes this team the best, Doom.

Isn’t that the truth. Every time my roommate and I play the game together he gets himself caught up in a Hulk-like rage, screaming ā€œthat’s not comic accurate!!!ā€

So with newer Iron Man players arising, I think it’s time somebody put together a new combo video. Anybody down?

No, not until the patch is out. No theory fighting please.

We have all the combos we need right now honestly. I think discussing the best way to utilize this character’s tools is a better use of time.

What I meant was to make a combo video of Iron Man’s current combos lol