ULTIMATE Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - OFFICIAL

[ForeverZero]

Twas a joke. I know. One vs. series coming out won’t have charge characters…this one does. Makes no sense, of course.

Even with more emphasis on zoning in Ultimate, charge play does not apply to the rules set forth by “rush down”.

Charged moves just hold characters back in these settings, I agree with.

[maziodyne]

yup, just wanted to get it out there that I think charge characters in a super fast game like Marvel are a waste of a character slot. hulk and iirc chun have charge moves and because of that factor alone their projectiles are ass. at least hulk has dat standing :h:

[scytheavatar]

Whoa, waaaay to early to call that broheim. We haven’t even seen all the characters yet.

Nah, it looks like they are buffing Taskmaster by quite a bit which is quite an absurd decision, worst of all if Taskmaster is top tier it’s going to make Hawkeye the Yang of UMvC3 and someone that nobody will play if they can play Taskmaster. Among the already revealed characters it looks like Taskmaster and Doom are the strongest, it’s too early to say that they look the strongest in the Comic Con games.

[ForeverZero]

Nah, it looks like they are buffing Taskmaster by quite a bit which is quite an absurd decision, worst of all if Taskmaster is top tier it’s going to make Hawkeye the Yang of UMvC3 and someone that nobody will play if they can play Taskmaster. Among the already revealed characters it looks like Taskmaster and Doom are the strongest, it’s too early to say that they look the strongest in the Comic Con games.

I’m waiting until near release to hear about Doom and Task nerfs. There both excellent defensive characters that many players have shown have great rushdown (Task 5 minutes combos and Doom’s j.M 3 frame normal+tridash is hella good) and with both characters get more defensive buffs…you’d think Capcom would take something away from both of them.

Same applies for Trish and Storm. Both solid B tier characters that don’t need buffs.

[Mr.X]

Nah, it looks like they are buffing Taskmaster by quite a bit which is quite an absurd decision, worst of all if Taskmaster is top tier it’s going to make Hawkeye the Yang of UMvC3 and someone that nobody will play if they can play Taskmaster. Among the already revealed characters it looks like Taskmaster and Doom are the strongest, it’s too early to say that they look the strongest in the Comic Con games.

Doesn’t matter, it’s not the retail version. They can still make changes.

[Flashy_Nights]

so when is this game dropping?

[maziodyne]

according to Amazon, it’s scheduled for a Nov 15, 2011 release date

[ForeverZero]

So techicnically the game goes gold by Halloween, if Nov. 15 is the actual release date. Meaning just less than 3 months left to work stuff out.

[maziodyne]

I remember seeing somewhere that S-kill said the game was about 80% done.

[scytheavatar]

I’m waiting until near release to hear about Doom and Task nerfs. There both excellent defensive characters that many players have shown have great rushdown (Task 5 minutes combos and Doom’s j.M 3 frame normal+tridash is hella good) and with both characters get more defensive buffs…you’d think Capcom would take something away from both of them.

Same applies for Trish and Storm. Both solid B tier characters that don’t need buffs.

The baseline at the moment seems to be Ammy as the standard for what every character should be at balance wise… Wolverine/Phoenix/Dante/Magneto getting slight nerfs make sense, so too is Doom/Task/Trish/Storm getting buffs. Guys like Dorm have both a mixture of buffs and nerfs and it’s hard to see if they are better or worse, but the likes of Spiderman/Tron/Haggar/Iron Man getting big nerfs is absurd.

[AceKillah]

i really REALLY hope Taskmaster and Doom dont end up stupid wtf S-tier

[Mr.X]

i really REALLY hope Taskmaster and Doom dont end up stupid wtf S-tier

You are beneath me… and it showed.
-Doom

I’m so much better than you. You can’t win.
-Tasky

[AndWhoCanForgetDearRatboy]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/aug/01/niitsuma-thinks-mega-man-x-iteration-would-fit-best-umvc3/

" … it’s an unannounced character that resembles a pre-existing character"
Rocket Raccoon as Cable confirmed?

" because that’s what they (fans) most probably want, so Megaman X"
Yes.

No he’s clearly referring to Vergil who resembles Dante.

[Karsticles]

You can blame the button layout for why a lot of moves are charge motions, especially for moves that were never charge moves before (Sand Splash, Gamma Wave, etc.). I’m not trying to reignite the whole debate about MvC3’s button layout, but we would not be having this problem if we were using punches and kicks, because that would completely eliminate any and all problems that could arise from overlapping inputs.

For examples, let’s look at Hulk’s specials, minus Gamma Wave:
Gamma Charge: QCF + Atk
Gamma Charge (anti-air): DP + Atk
Gamma Toss: HCB + Atk

At this point, there are VERY few inputs that can be used for Gamma Wave without overlapping another special. The only inputs that remain for Gamma Wave would be either
RDP + Atk
Atk + S,
QCF + S (coming at the direct expense of losing different variations of a special)
or a charge motion.

Why not just make it a b, f motion? No charge, just tap the directions.

[L_Arc]

No he’s clearly referring to Vergil who resembles Dante.

Let the boy dream.

Why not just make it a b, f motion? No charge, just tap the directions.

This would definitely be a wise decision. MK does this and it works perfectly fine. Maybe we could all hound Capcom about it. If ESTAKKA(x10) isn’t a charge, nothing should be in this game.

[Smexy_Millz]

Phoenix Wright with captain commado moveset would be sick… shouting objection while doing captain corridor…

[Fromundaman]

Well, like I said from all of the changes we know of (and only counting returning characters), he definetly looks Top 3 in my book (below Viper and Dante).

No mention of Magneto? He looks retarded in the current Ultimate build. Hope that and Task will get nerfed a bit by the time November rolls around.

[quixotegut]

You can blame the button layout for why a lot of moves are charge motions, especially for moves that were never charge moves before (Sand Splash, Gamma Wave, etc.). I’m not trying to reignite the whole debate about MvC3’s button layout, but we would not be having this problem if we were using punches and kicks, because that would completely eliminate any and all problems that could arise from overlapping inputs.

For examples, let’s look at Hulk’s specials, minus Gamma Wave:
Gamma Charge: QCF + Atk
Gamma Charge (anti-air): DP + Atk
Gamma Toss: HCB + Atk

At this point, there are VERY few inputs that can be used for Gamma Wave without overlapping another special. The only inputs that remain for Gamma Wave would be either
RDP + Atk
Atk + S,
QCF + S (coming at the direct expense of losing different variations of a special)
or a charge motion.

I completely agree that charge moves have no place at all in Vs. games. It is very easy to lose your charge to getting crossed up or someone decides to teleport behind you for example. Holding down back is something you don’t want to be doing in Marvel. That being said, I wish Capcom picked more intuitive inputs for a lot of moves, and that includes charge moves. I would have rather seen Tron’s drill be Atk + S instead of being a RDP motion given that it’s a charging melee attack, and other charging melee attacks also have Atk + S motions in the game (such as Spencer’s zip line, Storm’s Lightning Attack, MODOK’s Battering Ram).

Map Gamma Wave to :rdp::atk: or :hcf::atk: and problem solved.

Charge inputs are too slow in a game this hectic.

And I’m holding out for more clarification of the term “charge”. Could be button input or Gamma
"Charge". A lot of characters are getting new moves mapped to the :s: button so I’d like to see Hulk get a Gamma Charge that utilizes :s: and eats projectiles (and is safe)

[quixotegut]

Why not just make it a b, f motion? No charge, just tap the directions.

Would seem spammable, but it’d be just as good as :rdp:. It’d be easier to OTG with, too, and Capcom could tighten the window a bit more for balance.

[Capnlarge]

Nah, it looks like they are buffing Taskmaster by quite a bit which is quite an absurd decision, worst of all if Taskmaster is top tier it’s going to make Hawkeye the Yang of UMvC3 and someone that nobody will play if they can play Taskmaster. Among the already revealed characters it looks like Taskmaster and Doom are the strongest, it’s too early to say that they look the strongest in the Comic Con games.

Hawkeye seems just as different from Taskmaster as Spidey and Captain America are.