UD-CPS2: Fully Consolized Capcom Play System 2

Tech Talk
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Yes & No. If you want one that will only play Gray boards, I can build one for you, but if you want max compatibility the best you can get is USA/Blue and JP/Green (which, afaik, are also compatible w/ Rental/Yellow boards). Unless you already have some huge collection of Gray boards, I would not suggest buying them.
-ud

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Thanks for the heads up. I’m really glad I hit this thread up before making any purchases.

Edit: Another question, will you be taking pre-orders on the UD-CPS2?

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I will probably take pre-orders when I’m ready to start mass production. I don’t want to take a bunch of pre-orders and then encounter some hangup in my design and leave people hanging for some undetermined amount of time.

Small Update:

  • Started adding a F.A.Q. section to the first post.
  • Had a bit of time to play with the faster oscillator on my USB Host and realized I was “doing it wrong” :slight_smile: Currently running at old clock speed, but tweaked some code and knocked about 8ms off of the worst response time. A different oscillator should be here next week and I am looking forward to sub-10ms response times.
    -ud
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Would it be possible to use a USB stick/PCB and hook that up to say
 a super gun by putting your creation between the two? I think a small converter like that would sell like hot cakes. Even better with a small app that can program the board’s layout and save it to onboard memory like I-Pac or J-Pac does.

USB input > screw terminal output. I’d buy one in a heartbeat.

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Yep! Totally in the works, man :slight_smile:
-ud

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If you make that USB->DB15 i’d definitely buy that.

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I just registered for the main purpose of telling you that I will buy this as soon as it is available. Have been looking for exactly something like this for several years.

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Where can i get a crt tv like yours, im jealous. and im sorry if i misunderstood this, but all your providing is the “system” correct? and i just gotta buy the cartridges/games? will it matter what version it is? forgive me i have no experience with any of this.

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That monitor owns and I’d like to know where to get one too. Yes, it’s just a cps2 a board consolized. You will need cps2 B boards. It shouldn’t matter as long as they’re of US/JP origin. Boards are colored depending upon region, us/jp being blue/green respectively. For others it will require a custom system

What I want to know is, how will controls work
? Will we be able to specify inputs to meet certain needs
? (pads, etc
)
.
Also, regarding price can you atleast confirm these won’t cost more than $400
?

Hopefully this will assist in ST revival!

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Thanks for the heads up man. I’m gonna be looking up prices. &as far as inputs go, will I need a specially modded stick in order for it to play on this?

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Nope, not as far as I know. Any usb stick should work (with the exception of 360 hardware at the moment) but it is still in the process of being developed.

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Thanks! All fresh info will be posted here! :slight_smile:

It’s an Amiga 1080 monitor. Same model also came out for Commodore computers. There is a 1080s model, which has stereo audio, as well. Keep your eye out on ebay, craigs list, etc. Should be able to find one for $20ish. You’ll probably have a better chance finding the whole computer setup than just the monitor alone (ex. http://www.ebay.com/itm/330631073043).

Shouldn’t matter whether it’s pad or joystick. Or do you mean change button configuration? I plan on allowing button re-mapping. I will explain further when it is implemented.

I would like to have it in that ballpark, but I am waiting until I have the manufacturing process streamlined before giving a final price.

Indeed!

Update:

The last week has been slow do to waiting on parts and some RL stuff. Ironing out the last of the mechanical stuff so I can make templates for everything and get custom face plates made. Hopefully input lag specs can also get ironed out once I get parts in.
-ud

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I didn’t notice it when I was playing on it at Devastation, but I noticed on the photos on the first post you’re using an old IBM Thinkpad power supply. I have at least 3 of them laying around my apartment if you wanted them for the future. Still want to talk details about the possible trade. Call me yo, you got my number.

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Perhaps a dumb question, but what would a vanilla USB stick be? I dont suppose it’s just a 360/ps3 stick.

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Most likely HID which PS3 stuff will typically do.

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Guys,

I have a few questions
 Not gonna ask the obvious about costs since undamned won’t know until his project is done!

I’m seriously considering jumping onto the CPS-2 bandwagon. There are around a half-dozen CPS-2 games (big 1990s Capcom fan) that I really like with 3-4 that have never been properly ported to console. It’s looking less likely that Capcom will ever bother to do this. After all, they pretty much have given up putting their own programmers on port projects and have been outsourcing port projects for a few years. Aside from SF Alpha Anthology and Darkstalkers Collection – both Capcom programmer ports --, pretty much everything’s been done third-party with fair to middling results. I think general consensus is building that Capcom’s Net support sucks but many of us lonesharks hate the changes and rebalances done to the ports.

In all honesty, what are the fair market prices for the A & B board hardware? I understand some B boards may be more expensive due to rarity but on average what can you expect to pay for a B board? Does Phoenixing boards reduce their value? From what I understand there is convenience gained there but forgive me if I’m mistaken in the belief that altering the B board might affect its market value – ie, many collectors do NOT want permanently altered hardware.

I like that undamned is talking USB controller support
 This makes the most sense by far and will streamline the process considerably for the most people. I’m hoping that the final project will support the Hori, Mad Catz, and MC Cthulu PCB’s. These are pretty much what I have now for stick PCB’s. The prospect of redoing things with DB-15 or some other connector is not appealing to me!

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It’s kind of hard to pin down pricing on CPS2 B boards, George. From what I’ve seen on ebay this year, this is what I would expect to pay (some titles are missing, do to not seeing them come up for sale often):

<$50:
Street Fighter Alpha/Zero
Super Street Fighter 2

$50-$75:
Street Fighter Alpha/Zero 2
X-Men Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter
Pocket Fighter
D&D: Tower of Doom
Mighty Pang!
Marvel vs Capcom

$100+:
Street Fighter Alpha/Zero 3
Gigawing
Super Puzzle Fighter IIX
1941: The Loopmaster

$150+:
Alien vs Predator
Battle Circuit
D&D: Shadow Over Mysteria
19XX
Dimahoo
Mars Matrix

$200-$250:
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo

$250-$350:
Progear / Progear no Arashi

A boards hang in the $20-$40 range. As far as Phoenixed boards, it’s almost an eye of the beholder thing. I’ve known people willing to pay more because they want to buy all their stuff Phoenixed and I’ve known people who want to keep their board original as long as possible, if it hasn’t already died. I Keystone mod pretty much everything that comes through my hands, making it easier to keep fresh batteries in my boards.
-ud

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Thanks undamned!
Confirms what I’ve seen, too –
I was seeing about the same prices you quoted online. The A boards/systems are cheap but the board prices are all over the place now depending on where you buy them!

Most of what I want is thankfully in the lower half of that scale.

I wouldn’t care if most of these games are Japanese, Euro, USA, or Hispanic. I think they’re pretty much all the same and it’s territory switches that determine language (?). Could be mistaken on the territory switch, though.

I’d be more likely to go the Phoenix route when and if I can find those boards or get them modded
 I hate the business of those batteries. That kept me from pulling the trigger years ago!

I’ll keep an eye on this thread to see how things go with your mod. I’m definitely interested.

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Is it ready yet? I want to give you money. Will this work on my Xbox TE Stick?

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Wow, is US pricing on ST really that insane? I’ve bought several ST B-boards from Japan around „5000 JPY and there are nearly always plenty available. Sure shipping would cost a little more than buying locally, but you’d still come out way below $200 USD total. Just a hint for anyone looking to buy the game