U.S on par w/Japan?

Justin said he plays at least 6hrs a day in an interview with MTV, if I remember correctly

Doesn’t MW2 have some sort of auto-aim though? :razzy:

Herpy derp, I’m going to judge an entire genre on a single game.

How did you come to this conclusion? All the talk is between U.S and Japan; U.K isn’t even in the mix. They’re out of the threesome. I haven’t heard of any U.K players.

I have to agree. Some people just have natural talent. Personally, I’ve spent a shitload of hours on SF4 and my skill level is no where near someone else who’s put in less hours. It comes down to talent. Some have it, some don’t. Those who don’t have to put in more effort to reach a higher level.

LMAO! Genius!

Ryan Hart?

Why aren’t these threads locked on sight? I mean, it’s pretty much a “question asked, question answered” kind of deal.

And since no one else said it: another classic thread from an 09er.

I think they already did, about a 100 times already.

Yeah, it’s a very common subject in various podcasts. I’m pretty sure most top players have discussed it in one of those.

Oh, yah, of course MW2 is a fucking joke. That is like a theme park FPS. However, even so it can be played with smart teamwork.

I’m talking about more twitch based FPS games, though. One’s which require quick reactions, and teamwork.

Like UT/CS for example

Not really sure how you can say this…most of the wins that Americans get on the japanese (which is fairly rare) is because of O Sagat. I think ST is a no brainer for Japan.

Depends on the kof. Mexicans aren’t really on the radar here…chinese, japanese and korean are all solid in 98 and 2k2. I haven’t seen many kof2k matches but korea was very good.

About the discussion regarding Daigo and SF4. In Japan, Daigo might be better than many players there, but the gap is small enough that there are MANY players that can beat Daigo at any time. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are better than him, but there skill level is fairly close.

Also, Mago doesn’t really get raped by Daigo, he just loses the sets.

Don’t listen to Emil…whatever he says is gonna be jockriding the Japanese!

Oh wait, did Emil just post above me? :rofl: :rofl:

In regards to KOF- There’s nothing definitive in regards to who is better yet between us and Japan. Irregardless of what Emil might say, he doesn’t know anything. He sits at home, he doesn’t go out and play in tournaments. With the US’s strongest players at tournaments we don’t know who would come out on top…so we gotta wait until Japanese players come this way again…which could be EVO, but I won’t wait till that, I’m setting stuff up anywayz.

Japan is on par with the ancient Greek Gods.

Remember Emill, DG, if you want to tussel again be sure to continue it in the KOF subforum…

There’s no tussle, tell that to him, he’s on ignore as far as I’m concerned. You guys gotta remember that, after all, you’ll be the ones replying to him, not me!

When SFIV was released on console Justin said he never even turned his system off, he was playing everyday all day, if he wasn’t playing anybody he would just do training mode all day. I guarantee he was putting in 40 hours a week for the first month at least.

Indeed, carry on then…

the real question here, is who cares :wonder:

and im still suck on the game :confused:

You know shit about competitive FPS. Console FPS aren’t where the money or good comp is. Skill gap is non existent because of auto aim, and poor controls. Those are the reason why any one can be good at console FPS. It’s PC games like CS1.6 and Quake3/Live where true raw skill is. You have no idea what kind of mentality, and fundamentals you need to know to be even remotely competitive in those games. It isn’t just point and click, because even your 56 old supervisor can do that. I don’t mean to sound like a dick, but saying there’s no skill in FPS’s is just laughable.

Anyway, back on topic. I feel Japan will always be better than US players in fighting games. They live and breathe arcades, they always have high comp, and they always have access to other people who are good. US players don’t always have that leisure. Playing a bunch of people online will never make you good unless you play a constant flow of good players. The people who have access to arcades in the US are usually the people who have the most experience with fighting games, and are usually the people who have knowledge with fighting games in general. I know a lot of knowledge is online so people can read, but that’s just theory fighting. How can you be good if you don’t know how to apply that knowledge? Especially with an Arcade stick, which a lot of people aren’t comfortable with.

For example, I played competitive PC FPS for like 10 years. I always had access to high level of play in the games I played. Your game gets so much better when you play higher caliber players non stop. However, fighting games, the only people I play are random people or my friends. That’s not a good way to get better, that’s just a way to stay good at your current level. There’s almost no way to level up unless you read or watch stuff that is done by higher level of players. Even then, hands on experience will always be better because you can’t apply what you learned unless you do it in a real match. Japan doesn’t have to do that. I would kill, hell anyone, would kill just to just play a constant flow of amazing people locally or even have top level players teach them how to play fighting games to play at higher levels.

remember when tokido came to the US with claw flipping off the damn wall consistently? That shit wasn’t fair either. If japan wants to be fags and do that shit, we might as well pick the o.gat. I want to say that tokido even won the tournament playing with that cheap ass BS. I’m glad choi took them out with some cheap ass o.sagat the very next year iirc. An eye for an eye motha fucka.

you don’t know shit. Quit dick riding. Those japs are just as cheesy.

  1. Or the people that have the most desire to actually be the best they can be. Desire goes a long way too you know. I go to Mexico to get better, thus what is that? Desire to be the best I can be. We don’t play in arcades either, we play at home.

  2. Japan isn’t the only country in the world however. There are plenty other countries closer than Japan that one can travel to have access to constant competition.

As I tell others, what are you gonna do about the bad hand you’ve been dealt with?

A. Cry and moan?
B. Plan a way to get where you wanna be
C. Jockride others as just “born superior to us”

I chose B back in 2006. And I’m where I am today because I chose B. Matter of fact a lot of the top players may not have access to constant competition on their level, but they do have access to other countries and they travel so they see quite a bit you all here just don’t see I don’t care if you play online, you still don’t see it.

The people with the most experience overall are the ones that fare the best. Experience, exposure and adaptation determine tournament champions. You don’t just have to get that experience in arcades, the picture is much bigger than that, but yes just playing online isn’t gonna cut it so agree with you there.

Experience by itself isn’t enough to determine a champion at high levels, because you could’ve been playing for 10 years and have high level experience, but XYZ player hits you with a style from a different country you haven’t seen before- and if you don’t adapt soon enough=K.O. You’re done.

So exposure is just as important as experience. Experience and exposure help you adapt better because the more you’ve seen, the easier you adapt to it. Thus you never ever if at all possible wanna limit yourself to what you see. You don’t wanna limit yourself to one country, one area, one region, because you are limiting your exposure.

The people that fare the best in tournaments have seen the most!!!