That tekka BBQ video is week-1 shit. That doronjo was terrible lol.
I think the point was how retarded a baroque can be when you dont have 2 meter.
GHNeko, it is only that retarded if you have let your opponet get that much Baroque and never use it until you do not have 2 bars to Megacrash it
Baroque is that shit.
Just not like that anymore.
Using 30%+ Baroque is a thing of the past now for all “Advanced” TvC players. There are atleast 3-7 different ways all of the cast can use 10% or less Baroque to make them get in or get out faster. The 30-50% Baroque come backs are a thing of the past because people are using 5-18% Baroque as soon as they can. They have found that it opens the game up way more like that.
Making a combo longer is now used as a “Bait for Megacrash” tactic. If you extend a combo with Baroque with 5% your opponet will “most likely” only Megacrash if they “know” this combo will go on for like another 22-33 hits and end with a DHC that will deal heavy damage.
If you can not do 33+ hits only using baroque and partner (No meter usage at all) then your opponet is more inclined to let it ride because it is only making your combo weaker and Megacrashing a 25 hit combo that was Baroqued at 11+ hits with 5 % (expecially if it ends in a DHC) is seen as a waste of a great opportunity for you and those 2 bars. Some teams are exceptions to this rule but not very many.
Most people know that (I think it is this %) 15% or more is something to look out for. But even then they still want to see that you are going to “Hurt” them instead of another ground chain into launcher. Again, some people are exceptions to the rule but not very many.
If you have not found a way to use Baroque before 30% then it is time to switch out and let them get some of that health back. As long as you do not dry tag the character back in (hold back and press partner) they will keep the remaning Baroque that they did not get back as health and be able to use it.
Only the american scene plays with 30+ Baroque and never uses it. The other scene never really used it like that because as someone else stated, most of the time if the match is going like that, then, you have 3-5 bars stocked up also. Look at the last Wf and Gf match between Marn and Justin wong ( I think it is on page like 44-48 of the video thread) marn had that huge Baroque comeback ready but Justin always had 3 or more bars so nothing ever happened with his Baroque.
The Japneese really know what is Baroque in this game and it seems like nothing they have found so far has been bad enough in thier eyes to say this needs a change. We still see OTG infinites that can not be Megacrashed out of in tourney play so I feel like they changed the game to get americans more into it. Really.
they banned that shit? i’ve been really upset about that stuff for a while. i was hoping they would nerf that in the US release so we can crash out of it. roll and yatterman can seriously tear you up with that shit while you just sit back with your 2+ bars and watch…
NO not OTG supers but actual 2a infinites using Baroque, if you have not seen it yet then know you are not missing anything at all. That shit is Baroque for reals!!
Nobody banned the OTG infinites, they’re getting nerfed in the new one, but that’s a different story.
Also, that vid makes me nostalgic as hell. It’s super old though, like Keits says, the play in there kind of sucks, but it does kind of illustrate a point. A simple ass 1 combo kill like that one can be taken out without kneecapping the current usage of baroque which is in fact, like Saetan said, to open up your game more so than try to make huge kill combos. Most people at this point who still take the game seriously use baroque to try and combo or setup out of wierd ass situations into more advantageous ones (juggle off of a casshern divekick, baroque karas DP in the corner for mixups or to switch to a corner juggle). So yeah, honestly that kind of shit is not important at high level play, but if it helps americans think the game is less “stupid” (which is something I never understood, seeing as how Marvel was and still is one of the predominant tourney games in america), then w/e.
Oh and Saetan, you don’t need BBQ to do the OTG infinites with the right teams.
Say, how’s TvC in Japan? Is it a lot better than before?
The ones that did not use the Baroque to start it also used 3 bars in some way. This is off of the top of my head but not completly sure. Souki/Karas, Rock/Yatterman.
I know there are more but my archive has been on the fritz lately and my backup storage is at my bros so I can not check it/it would take forever for me to find all of them.
Team supers or Super->DHC->DHC->OTG infinite are not that broke in my eyes, but dive kick and polymar assist with OTG baroque infinite is crazy stupid, and makes the game with that team way to easy!!
That team is to good to have some broke shit like that but players use them in League/Tourney play so they do not consider it broke like I think it is.
I hope they do not change that and make people play around it because I do not see a way to stop it without completly changing the OTG part of the game. I have no proof of the game nerfing the OTG infinites but again the people who have been playing the game at the “loketest” in America are far from good enough to test that kind of shit out in the limited time they have to play it.
You guys have been bogging them down with the shit you want to know instead of telling them to test that shit out and re-jump shit out but it is nothing to bitch about seeing as I spent so much time with CGOH that I am sure I will spend 12 times that amount of UAS.
Please still be there re-jump combos, you helped get me away from Marvel and I do not want to go back but if they are gone… Matrix and Scrubclops Stan is cooming back to you. Sent/Cyke for life Bitches!!!
Oh BTW Yourmother… hold alt, on number pad press 1 4 5, let go of alt= (1 4 6 will give you )
Wolfox it looks like they have gave up on the game. It could be a number of things but “I think” it is because the “Stoopid Americans” had to change their game and make it all American/dumbed down so they care a lot less about it all together. It could just be because SBO is over and they are letting new blood get into the game before they get back into it. It could be because they know the new one is comming out and they are waiting for that one since they have already sent CGOH through the washer and back with all the shit they found, it could really be any oth those things but “I think” it is the first. My 2 cents
Stan, thanks lol
Anyways, the game is definitely not dead here in Japan. Like I’ve been saying for a little while now, there’s actually more people playing it than ever. A month or two after it came out, the cabinets would be deserted. Around SBO qualifier times, it picked up a bit with people trying to get pro, and as that dragged on and then SBO itself happened, I think a lot more people kind of took a liking to it after they saw how it panned out. There aren’t as many tourneys as there were anymore, but now there’s a few people playing it pretty much every night at arcades that still have it from what I’ve seen.
Those otg infinites are most likely gone. They’re a huge glitch, look like a mistake on the part of the developers, and the japanese players are all over them. So far Capcom has been removing glitches and infinites so I think you can assume the OTG rubbish will not be possible in UaS.
Yeah, nowadays unless your character is an androgynous male, has battle scars, or at least is a fashionisto, or at least a loli, that fighting game won’t get players.
Hmm let’s see here.
Androgynous boy: Yatterman-1
Battle scars: Alex
Fashionisto: Gold Lightan
Loli: Roll/Saki
Hooray!
By this do you mean Shoulder Charge (623), Head Splitter (41236), or something else?
If you mean Shoulder Charge, does his assist now wallbounce?
where did all those fighting games with the manliest characters youll ever known go??..(at lest we have polymar and condor joe here lol)
shoulder charge. Apparently the B and C versions now wallbounce. The A version doesn’t.
His assist does not wallbounce.
they moved to soul caliber.
I normally don’t care about Lolis on fighting games, but Roll is an exception seeing how she is the only good/best video game little girl character ever, serouisly, real talk, etc.
I doubt that ther OTG infinites will exists in the newest version of the game, after all they were like, the first types of infinites that were discovered in the game, and seeing how Capcom said that they nerfed/deleted all the well known infinites makes me think if Cashern will still have as many infinite set-ups as before.
As for BBQ, I prefer using it for making my mistakes a bit more safe when doing a move with a lot of recovery, I’m also sure that most people uses BBQ this way or just to extend combos using only 10% or 20% of red life (which is something that I also do), and even though doing an “Huge Kill combo” using a lot of red life it’s unsafe and not very positive, it’s still something funny to watch if it happen in high level play.
And is good to know that the Arcade scene is not dead in Japan, I hope that once UAS comes out the game becomes more popular in America (at least more than it is now).
LOL. i always thought polymar moves like a ballerina
Wait, how is Lightan a fashionista?
Is it because of his golden pimp cap?
It’s those shades…