Tucson Thread! Next Ranbat Sat, April 23rd! Read 1st post for info!

give me a fucking break jeremy. you know, we all had this discussion already. playing once or 2 times a week, which roch admittedly does, is fucking playing the game. im sick of that catch 22 bullshit. phoenix wins “oh we dont play the game so go figure.” tucson wins “ah MAN! we dont even play this game, you guys suck”

seriously gtfo of here with that bullshit. you guys do friday night fights and tourneys. if thats not playing, then i hella dont play. i play offline, outside of tourney day, maybe 2 times in almost 2 months(yeah, living an hour away from comp makes it hard). and i still say i play. roch plays like 835654 characters, lol i can barely play 1 character. yet you want to front that he doesnt play, to make you guys look better? give me a fucking break bro.

You’re missing the whole point though, Phoenix got so angry at him winning that they couldn’t let him saying one thing slide? Like Phoenix has never talked shit before? The whole thread got so upset about it it’s ridiculous. Nobody wants to share info or play with salty ass people. Not once did ANYONE post “Damn, 2 days to learn that shit, AMAZING!” all you get is salty sore losers upset that somebody else won. Nothing but blatant hating like “Damn we feel disrespected, that’s fucked up to say that, blah blah”

The point is that it was never about “making Tucson look better” or anyone for that matter. You think Roch fucking cares about winning one? I can see after tourney expecting a post like “YEAH WE WON WOOOOOO” but you guys keep talking about this one win like Tucson is putting it on a damn pedestal. We’re proud of our boy, yeah, but it’s Phoenix that is getting all upset about it. Look at this thread, all I have to do is MENTION it, and you come rushing out guns blazing like it’s some serious affront to your skill or person. Roch doesn’t care, Tucson hasn’t even talked about it, and the only mention outside of it has been 3 separate posts in the Phoenix thread of “Where the vids at?” until my post now.

tl;dr: Nobody cares about looking better than phoenix, or being best in AZ for that matter. Best anyone can hope for is that niggas stop being so salty, work together, and finally put up a good showing in Cali or at a major, because AZ is going to stay 2nd best until this fundamental community flaw can be fixed.

really dude? really? myself and others gave roch a lot of love for winning. and even when he secured the final win in the 5on5. who the hell is salty? i dont know where the hell you are getting all this. I sure as hell isnt salty. but to come out and say “we dont play” is downright insulting. i hated it back then, even when we were winning, and i hate it now. its one thing for it to be used as a joke, but some of y’all speak it like its gospel.

how is it a community flaw. if people dont want a certain player to win, they practice more to make sure it doesnt happen. how the hell is that a flaw dude? its called rivalry and motivation to improve. what are you smoking dude?

thanks for completely taking crap out of context and not really addressing the issue i had. i dont care if roch won. i have no issues losing to him, hes a great player. and he knows that i know that and we got respect for eachother. everyone else also respects that. we even give congrats. i dont know where you are getting all this crap from. where the hell were we acting like sore losers? seriously? point that shit out. i gave roch and even marvin(since marvin beat me at that tourney) hella props, i even did that shit on tape, with marvin, in an interview. but of course, im a fucking sore loser right? at the end of the tourney, we had jokes. and we all still congratulated roch on his victory. damn us sore losers for doing that!!!

yeah we joked about it was just 1 win. and 1 win means nothing. it means theres change coming, but its consistency that delivers. and they edged out in the 5on5. so now, the rivalry is for real, they came out on top again. and respect was given to tucson again. but you were obviously at the 5on5 to notice the sore losery, right?

get your shit straight dude.

my qualm is the silly i dont play crap. and you turn it into sore losers and other shit. when it wasnt even about that. good shit dude

ya, so all i know is instead of all this jiberjaber, yall should be playing vanquish.

im outi

Roberth

wha?huh?Idonteven…

If you can’t look at that and see how you come off as a sore loser, I really don’t know what else to say :sleep:

To add to that, you talk about saying he’s a good player like it makes every you say afterwards cool? That’s like starting out with “Yo good games,*** BUT***…” Doing that doesn’t make anything you say afterwards okay, especially when it’s comes off as being a sore loser.

As far as consistency, AZ is consistently bad compared to other states. Ya it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of people who live here, but it’s based solely on the community. Which is in turn because of this attitude.

Before I start, let me say, I know I’m fucking garbage at explaining things online. I always have trouble and would much rather just talk to people face-to-face, because I can’t count the times people have been like “What are you saying?” Ed knows this for fact, lol So I’m going to try and make this as simple as I can without losing the point

Each “pillar” of the SF AZ community, for the 9 years that I’ve been/come/gone into it, has always been trying to get recognition. Always trying to be the best. Which is good on a grand scale, but on a statewide scale is really fucks things up. I’ve seen players refuse to tell others how to beat their setups. I’ve seen players sandbag in local tournies, and I’ve seen players lose and do nothing but get salty about it. Now some players just aren’t the sharing type (Dan), and it can be good to have that cheap player, but amongst these “pillars” of the community, there is this animosity, and made-up rivalry, that is keeping them all from moving forward. The same way that you and Corey were going at it, it’s just ridiculous. I see the OG players withhold info, bitch about who is best, and in general just hate on each other, as opposed to sharing info, supporting their fellow AZ players, and moving forward as a whole. This shit then gets passed on to everyone who looks up to them. New players talk shit, they get salty, they make excuses, and all people talk about is how “hungry” people are. Fuck that, being hungry in fucking AZ should not be “I want to be on Scotts cool list of who is consistent and good” Being hungry should be “Fuck I want to go to Evo and win” But you don’t see that in this community. All you see is in-fighting and shit talking. Go look into other threads and see what they post. “Yo I’ma be at _____ on _____” “Hey good shit on ______, I found this vid that shows how to handle _______” Not 3 fucking pages of who is going to be on a shitty state only team tourney. This directly relates to you coming into the thread after tourney and complaining about Roch saying he doesn’t play. I’m sure Roch has sites he visits to watch vids, and methodology to learning a character in a short amount of time, but did anyone ask him? No. you get “Good games yo, BUT ___________________(fill in the blank with x back-handed comment)”

Which is not to say that there aren’t players who don’t do this shit. The first I met was Roberth, and honestly I’m sad that he doesn’t play anymore, because him teaching me CvS1 was one of the things that got me into fighting games. But now there are no players like that, and if their are, they take the smart route and just don’t-fucking-post. It’s sad to say but when Juicebox refused to comment on all the drama and shit that was going down, it was the best thing he could’ve done. Now I’m starting to realize the people that don’t post are the ones who already understand this shit. I’d think after the years that you’ve been here you’d see the same thing I see, than I KNOW others see. Ask anyone who’s come from another scene to read our threads and they’ll tell you. But you keep throwing flame on the fire, keep getting salty about shit, and refuse to simply back anyone who might represent AZ.

Now I know that’s all convoluted and not well explained, but I hope you get what I’m saying. AZ is too infatuated with defeating itself to stand a chance against anyone, and, on the real, srk is doing more bad than good =/ Hopefully you get why, in any case I’m going back to being the KoF hermit, I’m just not “hungry” enough for the SF community

In case you weren’t sure, that statement comes off as disrespectful and designed just to troll responses from people, like the one you got from Scott.

While you do have some valid points, the example you gave of how other scenes unite is exactly what happens in phoenix. Lots of people post up when they’re gonna be where, and there are alot of us who give feedback and share ideas and strats. These forums are just for stirring up drama, as you have done.

If you think Scott is a sore loser, you obviously haven’t played me any time recently. I’m pretty much the epitome of sore loser, which largely comes from the fact that i constantly see no improvement from the work i put in practicing. Scott always gives credit where it’s due.

In short, don’t make judgemental posts about the community based on secondhand hearsay, or you turn out to look like a douchebag. I’ve been guilty of that in the past, i know.

Honestly I’m not really worried about coming off as a douchebag, it has to do with wanting respect from someone, which I honestly don’t. I have enough self-respect to keep me going for years.

As far as the community doing things like what I mentioned, I didn’t mean for it to seem like I don’t see those posts. When I do see them though, I see them from new people who are having fun, just getting into the game, or folks from other communities (Arnold being the one I see post similar things the most).

And on you being a sore loser, I know you are, but I also know you’re level headed enough to think about it later and understand what’s going on, as well as how you should talk concerning the loss. My argument is only based people I think consider themselves to be “pillars” of the AZSF community. New folks will always come and go, and most of them I do actually respect. Sad thing though is that majority of the ones I respect either A) Come from other games/forums or B) move to other games/forums.

Just to reiterate my point; Coming to a forum after a tourney and talking about how other people are making excuses (Even though they win?) exemplifies the attitude that in my opinion causes people to leave this game and it’s community behind.

Also, for Abe: [media=youtube]GUAV_1jBJB4&feature=player_embedded#[/media]!

Yo everyone needs to chill. No offense to anyone but I have much love for everyone i’n the az scene! So the question is why can’t we all get along!! :smiley:

It’s no wonder a place like AIAB that is so focused on community, fails.

Games at my house tonight, be there at 6:00 PM, we will have 3 set ups and play till 11ish. Later today I’ll post a list of confirmed people coming. PM me your phone number for directions.

this is awesome. i’m watching dune’s kim video, and 3 minutes in i’m already seeing new shit. better watch your back next time we play 2k2

Much love to Nik for putting up the Tucson vs Phoenix Vids. So far hes got all of them up except the 3rd set. The commentary and shit talk is hilarious. The two best lines were Scott saying, “Maybe we should have invited JOSE’S team!” and Roch when he told Scott, “keep them block strings tight, Scott… you loose at the seams right now.” There were a million others and the shit talk was rampant. I was very sad we couldnt hear too many of johns comments tho. He was too far away from the camera. =(

Final list for Monday night fights is: David, Marko, Issac, Kriss, Ryan, Jake and Ian. marvin might showup depending on what his work has him do. See you guys tonight.

Oh also ill be buying (permiting its still up on XBL) KOF 2k2 on 360.

Yeah, Its up there on XBL KOF2K2UM is Godlike (Update it’s not there at the moment)

Honestly I don’t think this is the reason, moreso because there isn’t much money in fighters =( Speaking of which where have brayden and the fps peeps been?

Damn, murked myself on this one, haha. I do have a ton of links to different vids though, let me know if you want anyone specific

@Jose: Sorry bro I’m calling out again on SSF4 night =( Girly had a bad day at work so gonna order some pizza hut and stay in (Damn this pasta). It’s only slightly gayer than playing SSF4 though, so I hope you’ll forgive me

I’ll support you Ed till my fingers die! Even afterwards!!! :smiley:

Jeremy,
I wish I knew. I don’t even think I am going to bother buying black ops. I don’t see the point anymore. Not going to renew all of my live subscriptions once they are up at the end of Nov either.

We will see how these hourly Saturday nights go. November might be the last chance at anything not a fighter. Not that there is a big fighting game scene anymore either.

Not jumping to any conclusions, but the 400 facebook fans and 500 people in our email database obviously don’t show up, so I am kind of at a loss. We are at the point that we have tried everything. It’s just wearing me out trying to find something that will work.

Maybe I will just build a bunch of cabinets, put coin slots in them and xboxes and ps2s and call it a coin-op arcade. LOL.

That’s how Arcade UFO in Austin, TX operates. Lol.

It’s funny, the business would probably do better if I did that and charged 1.00 per game like Gameworks. People would probably spend more than $10 per night haha.

This may be true. Sad. But true.