i hope you post that every time someone compares their dumb fighting games w/ chess
Oddly enough I used to use Fei Long as much as I used Bang in BlazeBlue, and even then they also screwed up my back up characters. The better thing to say is not make dumb characters in the first place.
Guilty Gear Accent Core.
Then why are some of the least gimmicky characters upper mid and high tier?
Fei doesn’t need a boost though.
Do you disagree then that the universal mechanics don’t play a huge part of GGs balance?
Not in the most literal sense, but people call pretty much everything a ‘gimmick’ now.
What
no, i dont disagree that it takes part on the balance, but not a huge part, there is a lot on what makes GG balanced beyond the universal mechanics, that btw arent hyper homogenized as you said, the way that every mechanic works for every chars is different, not every char can frc the same way as the others, or not everyone have the same propierties on their airdashes or jumps, the only exceptions that come to my mind are FD, SB, RC wich work like any othe defensive mechanic on other games in terms that it would be silly to have different types of block for certain characters
GG is balanced because there is actually a good work when they desing every char and how they will work on the game, not simply puting random shit and hoping that it works
Viscant’s posts were godlike as usual. Some of the other comments here were also excellent.
Idiots in this thread have been modhammered. Carry on.
Lol, I’m not trying to do anything. I didn’t bring up FPS’ in the first place. I was just trying to play along with the random example YOU raised for the heck of it. I think my choice of shooters should have clued you in to the FPS era that I’m familiar with…
The specifics of whether rail gun really is viable or not has no bearing on my point.
Anyways, attempted tangent and misdirection averted. I have a feeling you know exactly what argument I’ve been trying to make over the last several posts (since I’ve summarized it like 3 or 4 times now). No need to beat a dead horse.
actually you were trying to get me to tell you i chose quake to talk about in my post because of some metaphysics reasoning about how i ‘like’ it the most except for i chose quake to talk about because its the best game
@ whoever said viscant should come back, he doesn’t need to come back to clarify his point, he expressed it extremely clearly. he needs to come back to tell us the answers to those 3 questions dammit
ok it’s obvious that That’s Mind Games is trolling in every post.
oh yeah and Viscant is wrong in what he said. Having Guile or Dhalsim as top or having Ryu as top or having Vega as top doesn’t mean anything.
I mean Blazblue disproves this because in the first Blazblue the top tier was Zoning characters and in the new one it’s rushdown. and it’s the same type of game. Blazblue is a much better game then SSF4. and Capcom should try to make their games like that.
and also Yes we want to win with the characters we like, either because of how the character looks or the characters story or their personality or their playstyle or a combination of those things. and there isn’t anything wrong with that, that’s how it should be.
I’m just gonna say your very much wrong about BB
he is wrong about me trolling also
Sad part is that being able to troll demonstrates more intelligence than your entire post.
Your point about blazblue proves viscant’s point. BBCT died a quick death, yet BBCS is getting a better reception. Why is that? CT and CS are equally unbalanced. Bang, Litchi, and Ragna are the new v-13, Arakune and Rachel. But, people bitch less because the broken CS characters are all rushdown. Proves viscant right. You can accurately predict a game’s quality by seeing what the game rewards. And the top tier characters also are a measurement of what a game rewards.
even when i enjoy BB over ssf4, viscant is right in what he said, also BB and SF are 2 diferent beasts, in BB there were a lot of things that made the zoners specially strong against the rest of the cast
actually no, BBCS is more balanced than BBCT, the simple fact that the mid tier can compete against the high tier and be viable shows that and that there are only one low tier this time (2 for some that say that tsubaki is low too), there arent uphill battles like tager/bang/hakumen vs v13/arakune/rachel (unleats that you are LOLrachel), of course, the balance can be imrpoved, but saying that CS is equally unbalanced to CS is just wrong
King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match
GGAC
VF4 EVO
Vampire Savior
Oh wait, I forgot that these games don’t matter because they weren’t made by Capcom. Except for VS but it doesn’t matter because the game’s “too fast for strategy”.
so is that game
I need to buy a rocking chair, these threads seem to pop up a lot more often now, and I need something to kick back with whilst I drink my morning tea~
Chess(you play as both white AND black)
Monopoly
Scamble
tetris attack(kinda)
what are you saying