Because context. We live in a society where women are routinely oppressed by being treated as second-class people in this way. It wouldn’t be a huge stretch to say that a pattern (in video games) of representing women as being primarily sex objects is reinforcing that power structure.
We live in a society where men are routinely oppressed by being treated as infallible powerhouses who aren’t allowed to show any kind of weakness (else you at best get labeled gay), have to look strong and smell good at whatever they’re doing (if you sweat like a doghouse, the glistening must stay aesthetically appealing!), are musclebombs and can overcome any hurdle on their own to the point where even thinking of requesting help turns you into rubber dog poo.
Where are the masculinists complaining that Ryu is objectifying men into an idealized stereotype which will never ever exist? At least women with big tits are actually real.
She’s either a complete freak or a total snoozefest in bed.
I always thought the issue with females invading male spaces wasn’t so much the issue of them being women, but rather the entitlements and changes these women expect due to their presence…kind of like a"I’m here now, you better shape up" attitude.
Anyhow another issue I have with the’female objectification"fallacy is that these articles and authors never really offer a clear resolve on how women should be portrayed, partly due to the convoluted and rather significant contradictions within the circles that promote these “issues”. From what I could gather after reading several articles on the subject by different authors who all make the same points arguments, these 2 conclusions seem to be the most recurring themes I come against.
Solution 1 is in the case of the alien franchise and hunger games and the lead women in those movies. Female leads(or characters) are supposed to have nearly every feminine aspect of themselves(in respects to their appearance and behavior)eroded to the point that they are indistinguishable from men. If the female characters are only suppose to have short hair,virtually no make up, be fully clothed with multiple layers and absolutely no emphasize on sexuality with attitudes that are near identical to men then isn’t that in a way shaming females both in mind and in body…basically short of a physical and mental abayat and niqāb. It also in a way strongly advocates the message that"the only way you can be strong,powerful and be respected is if you look and act like a man"which to me is sort of the opposite of what female empowerment should mean.
The 2nd solution is about realistic portrayals of woman which to me is the more confusing of the 2. if the issue is that fiction should realistically depict women in their appearance and behavior then does this also apply to the male characters and even the situation and circumstances of said fiction. Not to mention in what sense does “realism” mean since it can be a very subjective point not everyone will agree on. Is the point of realism in the attire,age,weight and appearance of the girl or in how she acts and thinks…going by how some of these authors talk about it im getting the impression that the only alternative and appropriate look and behavior for a women in fiction(outside looking and acting like men)would be to have a average looking girl dressed in casual clothing who acts more like a tom boy then girly girl. Both examples of course also need to be supported by a strong emphasis on"girl power"either somewhere in the plot of in the characters identity, if you dont have neon lights flashing this point on screen then you better make sure its somewhere in the overall plot or characterization.
What’s funny though is that both these solutions(which seem to be the most popular)overstep the whole"its my body and I can do what I want"sentiment and female agency that these same critics/authors criticize men and society of doing.Basically these same women/critics are shaming women by using slut language if they should chose to dress sexy and advertise their sexuality. Its ironic that in condemning the media and male dominated materials for degrading women and giving them a bad "self image"they themselves basically dictate how women should dress and act…so much for agency and independence lol.
Female in trouble for vagina talk
You know damn well there would be a shit storm of epic proportions if a man said something similar about his penis especially if he was a republican.
LOVE these feminist double standards. :bluu:
According to the SNKwiki Shion was originally designed to be female, sort of a reverse Poison, so to speak.
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/ShionShion (紫苑, Shion) is a character from The King of Fighters series. He makes his first appearance in The King of Fighters XI as a sub-boss. He was conceptually designed to be one of Ron’s daughters though developers decided to change his gender to startle and appeal to fans with his androgynous appearance. His gender was revealed to fans in his official back story, which states (and corrects itself) on his masculinity. He is voiced by Tokiyo Ogawa.
So yeah, basically gender doesn’t matter so much to Capcom or SNK so much as causing controversy over transgender people.
I’m half kidding.
I fully think hypersexual is the new sexual, in terms of how we think of women. Honestly it irks me quite a bit, I couldn’t begin to understand how that would pertain to 'appearances however, only thing that comes close is probably the prevalence of OMGF UFC.
angelpalms img of David is ironically relevant.
Basically, I think about the idea of nudity as the basic concept of sexuality, not hypersexuality. In Europe there are thousands if not tens of thousands of sculptures and statures of nude humans, and no one bats an eye lash.
The difference is entirely the puritan background, which I think semi-morphed into the protestant work ethic.
I don’t get it, I don’t agree with her views, but her talking facetiously about her vagina isn’t a big deal, neither would it be if a man said the same thing about his penis if it’s meant to be a sarcastic jib.
Perhaps my sense of humor is much too advanced for the goverment. 
As far as I’m concerned…
as long as a trope is being written properly, then that’s just fine.
I don’t even say this, but sick av.
Again, getting stuck on the visual and ignoring all else.
And your points are getting closer to a sort of discrimination against busty women as if they don’t exist or would/should be unable to be do the task given in the game.
Yeah, ignoring one type of female appearance is just as “sexist” as putting another one on a pedestal.
If flat chested women were portrayed as the “sexiest women overall” then having nothing but characters with shapes like King would be just as “sexist” as having too many depictions of characters like Mai.
Personally, sexy to me is a women with a good looking face, and can carry their body weight well with confidence, regardless of body type, as long as they aren’t obese. Yes, there are tall thick women that don’t look fat, they exist.
Also, not agreeing with X that your rhetoric is along the lines of “busty discrimination.”
I’m just trying to accentuate his point.
>Has yet to think of any SG character in a sexual way.
That’s the problem with this woman’s “work”. Scholarly work perceives it, she’s working to perceive it in a negative light, be offended and making arguments based on emotion. Go back to my post with the essays or at least read this one and see that it is objective, isn’t loaded or designed to attack.
Didn’t Miwe2 shut down the whole “sexism in video games” single handedly a few months back?
I would be interested in seeing this.
Link please.
Has anyone been to Feminist Musings recently?
I stopped trolling that place after that black girl said that white parents shouldn’t adopt black orphans.
I couldn’t take the stupid any longer.
Are they supporting this?
God fucking dammit.
I must admit I got bored about halfway through and just skimmed the rest.
It’s funny, and a little disheartening, that it took more females in videogames before gender was even considered a viable topic of discussion. It’s like the make gender is just neutral sometimes. I suppose that’s just a given since males have been the largest player of games since time immemorial.
Back to the first post.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, some woman needs money to do a documentary (???) on women in video games and she has raised over $100k? Am I missing something here?
Nope, you pretty much got it. Not sure if she has the 100 gs yet, but I think that’s her goal.
I checked, her goal was 6 gs and she now has basically 147 gs.
She better put that shit to a charity or some other cause instead of putting it in her pocket, or this will cause a huge debacle.
Fucking god damnit.
Is there a feminist musings topic on this board, I have to make one, I almost forgot how fucking stupid they all are over there.