You might be in luck. I have one MISB Dead End I could consider selling if you’re interested… :lovin:
I disagree, he was never marketed as an Alternator, and I don’t consider him one, they’re not even the same scale…
I agree on both points. Grimlock/Wheeljack is the hardest Alt to change back and fourth, there’s something about the front wheels and that whole change there that makes him imposible to work correctly.
And Prime as a RAM, yeah - bad choice, IMO. I hear that’s the reason why he was cancelled as a Binaltech. Apperantly, Hasbro made the agreement on their end for Prime but Takara didn’t like the choice so they finaly bailed. I could be wrong but that’s what I read somewhere.
Whatchu smokin, Taichi? Of course they’re on the same scale, just place any Alt in car mode and copare the size with Prime in Truck mode. Most everyone thinks of 20th Prime as a part of the Alt/Binaltech line - he started it off regardless that it doesn’t say Alternator/Binaltech on the packaging.
I just disagree…Alt/Binaltech are representations of actual new model cars, while Masterpiece Prime is an amalgamation of several makes of OLD semi tractors…
the theme doesn’t match, and neither does the scale…maybe in vehicle mode, but definitely not in robot mode…
the Masterpiece edition are basically meant to be the “Ultimate” version of G1 characters, which is why Starscream is coming soon…
that’s my opinion at least…you’re free to say/do what you like, but the fact of the matter is, it’s not my stance, nor, apparently, is it Hasbro’s…
personally, my favorite Alternator is Tracks…I like the transformation, and the fact that it’s UNDENIABLY Tracks…very nice throwback, and a great transformation…
I kinda disagree. Original Optimus Prime was a truck. He’s a truck in this incarnation. It just turns out that it may not be the right one. Give HasTak some credit for trying - it may be better than what it’s made out to be.
Takara originally bailed because trucks in Japan are pretty much non-existient. But Takara relented a bit and renamed it Ginrai. (go figure.)
Take a look at the old TF’s including Prime and any other car robot. Prime stands atleast twice as tall as any of the originals, and it’s the same with this line. And truck manufacturers still produce trucks of that style to this day. He’s still a plain red flat-nosed diesel, there’s not much else you can do. If they wanted to change his truck body style to something different, it wouldn’t be Optimus. Technically, yes he does use an older style but in terms of construction and features he’s a Binaltech/Alternator to everyone else.
My current fav is Shockwave. I can’t stand the repaints but they did something amazing with Shockwave/RX8. Skids is probably my next favorite. Great robot mode and the car mode rocks.
actually no…20th Prime has nothing similar to Binaltech/Alternators…the joints are superdetailed, with pistons, and slides, there are very few balljoints, the transformation is a lot smoother (with very little of the body panels leftover to hinder movement)…I just dont’ see what everybody else is talking about, and it would seem Hasbro/Takara doesn’t either…I see the construction/features to be MORE than what is featured with the Alternators…
ah, the joys of beast wars…not having to listen to the rice rocket crowd talk about alternators/binalwhatever
I’m a G1 fan, Gorath…tho, I like some of the designs of Armada-Cybertron
I don’t believe you. Lucky breaks don’t happen to me.
(of course I would be interested.)
Actually, the reason Takara bailed on Prime appears to be that they’re bailing on Binaltech altogether.
And no, MP/20th Prime is not to scale with the Alternators. The Alts are in 1:24th. Prime is somewhere in the 1:32to 1:36 range.
I Am Vindicated!
Just as long as I’m able to get Mirage, I’ll be fine. Prime as well.
I don’t give a shit what ANYONE says, I’ll be damned if you can get Wheeljack’s head through that little slot without scratching the blue paint. :wasted:
hey guys, my bad if this is old. But there are rumors that the next line after cybertron is a “neo-G1” line with real modes and better articulation. This is a early prototype of Astrotrain i saw.
http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=5711&dispsize=800&start=0
I was just about to post that, theres a thread of it here:
Yeah, the line is old news (as of BotCon), but the Astrotrain pictures aren’t. Nice. We also saw a Megatron and Starscream, but I don’t know if any pictures of those have appeared on the net.
not to my knowledge they havn;t i think when neo comes out be the end of alt/bintech line if they can’t any more car licenses.
Those look nice. If I were a collector, I’d get them when they come out.
The only thing I have my eyes are now are Mirage, Op Prime, and the possibility of MP-03 Starscream.
That Astrotrain is tight…
I hope that turns out to be a decent line…
there’s already a Japan Only (as of now) Posable “G1” line…actually, it’s an all-encompassing line, that features G1 Beast Wars, etc.
theres an OP and Starscream in the set, and the Screamer never looked better!
Is this the “robotmasters” jpn only-line? If so, ive seen the starscream version . Pretty cool :tup: