TournamentWars Final @ Bloody Knuckles - 02/28/10

Wow. That sounds like a memorable night. Once I was at a bar in eastern wasington and this chick slapped this guy in the middle of the street. The guy slaps her back and like 20 guys (I’m not exaggerating) pour onto the streets and proceed to beat the shit out of this guy. My buddy who is a cage fighter was jizzing his pants over the whole thing:rofl:

Crazy stuff!

Personally I have two thoughts on the team idea.

  1. Teams is cool as hell and different enough to make me want to watch all the videos. I like the idea of using some strategy with what order people fight in to maximize the matchup strengths and weaknesses. It adds some unpredictability to the matches due to some players being stronger than others.

  2. I don’t like OCV’s. On one hand it’s cool to see one player so skilled that he beats a whole team. But then it becomes almost a singles tournament. One guy wins, fights another guy, wins, and fights another guy. So two people on the team don’t even get to play.

Personally I would like to see a best 2 out of 3 idea. Winner doesn’t play again and it goes onto the next pair. Partly this is because I’m a scrub and want to see all the matchups soz I can steelz movez. But mostly because I don’t like the fact that it’s a team, but potentially over half the team won’t play.

Also potentially I could be on a winning team if the two people going before me are strong enough players. And I REALLY should not be able to say that with any sense of truth to it(I haven’t played SF since SFTCE on SNES and I’m horrible), but I can because it’s true. The way the system is, my team could be Daigo,Sanford, then me as the anchor and I could win first place.

tl;dr version : I like teams, but I think they could be re-worked.

Teams are way more fun for a tournament this size. There’s more benefits too, in my opinion.

For example, if this was a singles tournament, I probably wouldn’t have even joined. I think that team tournaments bring new players to the scene that others don’t know about. For example, I’m super new to the scene, and I was at Preppy’s and Jared’s once and didn’t even know Richard before we formed ESL with Matt.

It’s also really awesome to just observe how any team works and how they click with each other. No repeats of characters sometimes means that friends can’t be on the same team, but that’s what makes it so great.

Watching matches feels more epic too, because you know it’s not just guy A against guy B - it’s a whole team - seeing other team members reactions are priceless.

So yea, if TW2 is going to be teams again (even if it is 2v2, which I don’t like - I think it should still be 3v3, or maybe even more like 4v4 or 5v5), I’m definitely in, no matter how I do this time.

Oh also, I know Frank has mentioned that TW2 is likely going to be 2v2, but how about a poll to decide, much like we did with the winning percentage for TW?

I’m going 2v2 because one of the biggest issues i had was people forming up teams, then having people drop out at last minute. It also is an easier number to reach if I have some people interested in joining up (ceramic sugar comes to mind). I know it sucks right now because we have 3v3 teams set, but it also allows for people to mingle and get to know other players that they don’t normally know (hopefully)

Also 2v2 will allow matches to be a 2 out of three set for teams instead of just one match to end all.

For the most part here is a run down of how I want Season 2 to be:

TournamentWars Season 2: Teams

  • 2v2

  • Games are set to 2 out of 3 rounds (not the 3 out of 5 like in S1).

  • Matches will be 2 sets (instead of the one set like in S1)

  • Winning team must keep team order, Losing team can switch order.

  • I’m planning for a 12 week season (6 games, instead of 8).

  • OCV rules and point system will be changed DRAMATICALLY, I have the system ready but will be announcing that later on. It’s might be a little complicated at first, but in the long run it’s really going to make people come into each game with that Play to Win mentality.

TournamentWars Season 2: SINGLES

  • once a month there will be a singles ranbat tournament (4 tournaments total for the season)

  • people are not obligated to enter all four tournaments, you don’t have to be in TWS2:Teams to enter TWS2:Singles

  • There will be a point system for top 8 performers each tournament

  • Entry Fee - $10 ($3 going to the Tournament of Champions tournament)

  • Payout - 70/20/10

  • After the 4 tournaments are over, the top 16 point leaders will be entered into a Championship tournament.

TournamentWars: Championship

  • Only the top 16 players will be entered into this tournament.

  • Tournament will be SINGLE ELIMINATION

  • Top 4 point leaders will be seeded, the other 12 will be thrown in at random.

  • To qualify for the championship, you need to be at at LEAST 2 tournaments (rule might change depending on if someone can just win a tournament then ditch out the other three tournaments to try and win the finals).

  • Winner takes all. That’s right the Championship is going to be as cutthroat as ever, the only friend you’ll have in that tournament is your stick.

So how much could people be playing for? Well, we have 48 ppl in TW’s. We could realistically pull in 50 ppl each time.

so 50 ppl $10 a head $500 in the pot - $3 from each player for the Championship = $350 pot

$245 for 1st (70%)
$70 for 2nd (20%)
$35 for 3rd (10%)

if we get 50 ppl each time this is what the prize pool will look like + taking $150 from each tournament leads to a Championship with a prize of $600 bucks.

Other Changes

  • No Trophies or Medals. I’m seriously thinking about dropping this idea, it doesn’t seem like a lot of people are interested in that idea.

If the SSFIV release date is still the same as the rumor suggested. We should be wrapped up right before EVO.

I still want to like make a video presentation to put up on the TournamentWars youtube site. I’m brainstorming some ideas on how to get that off the ground.

But yeah that’s what is cookin in my brain so far. What do you guys think? For Season 2 I’m looking to have it be more competitive (Particularly with the new OCV point system). So it’s pretty much for us to really buckle down and get ready and to push each other.

LMFAO. Wow. That’s pretty epic.

On another note. Is anyone commuting from the Redmond area tomorrow? Looking for a carpool.

Stop beasting frank

Um, no, we shouldn’t be playing FC unless something drastically changed that I’m not aware of. Stretch should NOT be playing a triple header ALSO. We’re playing Fight Bros. and TDP. Am I mistaken?

You know what, I think it’s the untechables. I should just check the website lol. But francis is right there are no triple headers this saturday.

The only gripe I have with the season 2 format is that Team Jurassic will be broken up:sad:.

gross

Frank your singles idea was what I was thinking but better…damn single elim top 16 champ is awesome…I’m down totally.

edit: also the BC guys told us to hit them up for big tourneys so I think they’d be all over this.

this would be very un-jurassic. 2 of you niggaz might have to fuse or this could be the end of an era! team cretacious and team mezazoic could form or you could get grillz and for team ice age and be shinin. i really dont know what the hell came after the jurassic period…

Since I’m sure Season 1 won’t be the end of 3 on 3 in Seattle, Team Jurassic will always live on. For Season 2 it would probably be most beneficial to the Jurassic cause if we all split up and find a new partner, and we’ll all be subsets of Team Jurassic. Like Team T-Rex, Team Raptor, Team Dilophosaurus, etc. And when Team Jurassic reunites we’ll be stronger than ever.

On a very related note…http://www.collegehumor.com/pictures/gallery:week_1#1928527

We could do that no problem. I was trying to get my girlfriend to potentially be down for a sf4 tournament for breast cancer or something of the sort. Jillians would be perfect because most likely if the entry fee was pretty low + donation. We could get a lot of random folks playing, seeing what our scene was about and making that money to help defeat breast cancer.

Also, we really need to get on that live streaming, asap. Does anyone have an extra video camera w/ firewire or usb? We could set up a channel on ustream.tv pretty easily.

Also, I like having 3v3 for teams, but 2v2 would be fine as well. Either way I’m down for season 2!

I thought for sure that link was going to be this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1925555

Good games to Team Fight Bros, nice job with Ray Mark’s Gief. Definitely put in some work!

Quick Results. Winners in bold:

SFIV:

Stretch Armstrong vs TDP

Team Fight Bros. vs Stretch Armstrong

Focus Cancelious vs TDP

Focus Cancelious (OCV) vs The Untechables

Team Fight Bros. vs FATS

T6:

Frost’s Team vs. Team Tapatio (OCV)

Paris, France (OCV) vs. Frost’s Team

I can’t wait for the videos…I’m sad work made me so late to only see half…gg’s in casuals…Josh I’m definitely gonna hit up that GGPO 3rd strike shit…I need work on my spacing/footsies game in general and I think that’ll really help (it evident in your playstyle and good spacing in SF4)…Plus Akuma’s tight in that game as well lol…

lee you are tight for bringing books and ur brother is the thrilla from manila residing in bremerton hahahaha with u guys and pacquiao the homeland is proud

bokkin thanks for keeping old ass scooby doo fruit snacks in your trunk and thanks to eman for giving me some of those scooby snacks hahahahahaha YOU GUYS NEEDA STOP BEASTIN GOD DAMN!

thanks for coming everyone. it was good to see all of you after such a long break. those hot dogs were asssssssss btw lol i hope we have some better ones next time. those are usually what we feed the kids so they have to suck.

run stop fae is apparently the new drink for tw, AXE ABOUT IT

RSFae was so tight.

GG’s to all. I really enjoyed watching it.

RSfae’s are bomb!