Oh crikey, this shit is awesome.
Or to be more specific… someone who calls themselves the all-mighty me or whatever and posts “Sorry. Now please get the fuck out of my thread.” in a public thread. Yeah, I went there!!! :wgrin:
Dunno how everything blew up in a day, but tearing the community apart is good for no one.
You got the wrong person there, Gerjay. :shake:
Seems to play more on the idea that both threads know absolutely nothing about each other and want nothing to do with each other. Internet wise, that is.
See you’re a little new so I’ll give you a history lesson. I didn’t name myself The Godfather. The Sauga Crew named me the Godfather because at one point I ran every aspect of this scene. It’s a name given out of respect for hard work in the scene. Again, you’re relatively new and frankly ignorant of all the history in this scene.
Care to take another stab at it or you done? Maybe PM Distal Stimulus so you two can co-ordinate yourselves before attempting weak attempts at punking me off.
To be honest, this all started because Nagata suddenly decided to do this. Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not outright telling you, you’re mistaken.
I have a question from my own standpoint: What was wrong with the way it was? Were the two threads hurting anyone? Were they causing a clutter or clusterfuck of shit? Separately were they hard to deal with? (I still find this hard to believe because they need little or no moderation.) I don’t know, I’m not modding this shit. But, I’m asking a serious question.
If everything went back to normal, the problem would be solved.
EDIT: Even with your original claim that LG thread wasn’t needed because SF players played at LG exclusively seems moot now since you’ve now seemed to return to Playscape.
I was just saying it to give an example of what elitism might be present in the lovegetty thread. You can post away to show elitism in any thread, but when the facts are infront of peoples faces its worth mentioning them rather than seeing people in denial and calling out others.
Fair enough. I’m not here to debate whether people are acting elitist or not. (For all I care, mans could have been big douchebags about it) That’s not really the point for me. It just seems like a random move, that nobody wants. A good explanation would satisfy me just fine.
OK I’ll try this one more time.
The Toronto thread used to be a well posted thread. It comprised every arcade east of Woodbine Centre. We didn’t have a thread for Funland, STC, METRO, Fairview, PTC, ORBIT, VA/VF. We had the Toronto thread. The players managed to co-exist with multiple arcades for years until last year when The Lovegety Thread was created. At the time I saw it more as a “Guilty Gear players who have been disrespected by ORBIT management” thread and they’d be right to call it that.
The increased closures of Toronto based arcades (and when I say Toronto I mean east of Woodbine Centre) in conjunction with ORBIT’s subsequent near demise and player exodus left a situation wherein only Lovegety Station was a viable arcade to play in. Considering all the players were already going there and because the original Toronto threads were near death anyway (some of them not even getting 100 posts in a month) the decision was made to simply have one Toronto thread. The segregation of Lovegety Station from Toronto thread was pointless because there simply were no other arcades/scenes to differentiate Lovegety from the rest of Toronto. The Toronto thread literally would have been the Lovegety thread regardless.
The problem isn’t the fusion of the threads. It’s a two fold problem. The first is that the Guilty Gear players are not willing to acknowledge the fact that their once exclusive arcade is now used by everyone. In my personal opinion, they liked the idea that they found Lovegety, pushed it as the best arcade and got to say “I told you so” to the rest of the scene who hung unto ORBIT until they were forced to leave out of frustration. However, they do not want to deal with the reality that all players from across the GTA not only go to Lovegety Station but also post in the thread. SFIV sealed the deal in that regard and as such they’ll never be able to get rid of the new influx of players from the thread they once had for themselves.
The latter problem is far more superficial; Nazir isn’t willing to let go of the idea that it’s HIS THREAD. He created the thread, fostered its growth at first and was happy that all of his GGAC friends were posting in this thread as opposed to the Toronto thread (in which he’s been verbally abused since day 1 going back to Marvin/Will/Ryan being assholes to him). Once the fusion of threads was announced he was the first to be pissed about it. He made it clear it was his thread and he didn’t need Toronto spam/scum/etc… in it. It’s simply ego on his part. Take a look at Dustloop, where he announces “WE ARE FREE” not once but twice within a couple of posts like he’s moses leading the Israelites to the promised land.
Contrary to my insane rant a few weeks ago I don’t have a problem with Lovegety Station. It’s literally the last refuge for a community of players I have worked hard to maintain and grow over the last six years. I don’t agree with some of the recent changes in the arcade but that’s just sour grapes. If out of towners asked where to play I’d be the first one to recommend the arcade both for level of comp and variety of games. It’s not about SF vs GG. It’s not about one group of friends talking shit on another. We have been flaming each other for years. You Herbert were verbally raped silly when you first arrived on SRK and not only managed to deal with it but become a great asset to the site. People honestly need to learn how to roll with the punches. When I first came onto SRK, OG TOSF ran the show and no one posting here today has got ANYTHING on the cruelty those guys could dish out. We didn’t run and cry to other forums. You dealt with it and life went on.
The Lovegety thread will be re-opened tomorrow morning. If all the kids can share the sandbox that’ll be great. If everyone wants to follow Saint Nazir to the holy land and stay there more power to them. The Toronto Thread will be the only thread as of January 1st, 2009. Deal with it however you see fit.
I guess when you say “the Lovegety Thread would have been the Toronto thread” because there are no other arcades is true. The crux of the problem lies in that although, you are right to say that, the fact is, the base of the posters in both threads vary greatly. I’m not here to defend Nazir’s elitism, I’m just checking the situation as I see.
You do say that the Toronto monthly threads barely get 100 posts a month, fair enough. Which why I originally suggested making a one yearly topic for Toronto threads and keep the Lovegety one separate. The threads act as small getaway for each of the respective “scenes” (I use this term lightly, it’s just my idea of saying different groups of people) to meet up with each other, SPAM and do and say silly shit. I’m sure when you guys post in the Toronto thread there is no shit like “KIEF, SCUM, FIEND” because that garbage is exclusive to the Lovegety thread. Mashing that shit altogether added with people who frequent the Toronto threads (which again are different people who don’t deal with incredible SPAM like that on a daily basis) will undoubtedly be fucking annoying; but for the Lovegety thread, shit is everyday.
You guys talk about hooking-up for poker, passing some bong, talk about Heroes, DOTA and shit in the Toronto thread. Lovegety doesn’t. The problem isn’t with the real life situation of the arcade. It lies with how different the people base and the content of the topics are. They vary so much, they might as well be different community threads. (Like Toronto vs the Waterloo thread, in which its normal to see Bill ranting about AHF and that shit doesn’t mix and certainly would not fly in the Toronto thread) If both threads talked about the same shit and worked the same way (like the Sauga & Toronto thread, if anything these should be made into the GTA thread) I’d see no problem with merging them. But, that’s not the case.
Even if they do have those feelings, part of it would be wrong. I first played 3S at Gety in July of 2005, back when 3S was the only fighting game anybody played there. When I posted about it, the only person on SRK who replied or seemed to know what Gety was for that matter, was Antoine. I even remember that he mentioned the high damage and number of rounds. Too bad the search only brings up Toronto threads from 2007 and later. The GG people didn’t know about Lovegety until AC was close to release, AFAIK. History lesson is concluded for now.
Scum isn’t lovegetty exclusive, just had to comment on that.
You have to draw the line somewhere. Just because people are in different cliques doesn’t mean they should all get their own thread. If you tried to make a Rae’s basement thread here, it wouldn’t fly because even though we both don’t chill or meet up, we’re still a part of the same city. If you don’t want to post in the Sauga thread, that’s fine, but to make your own thread because you don’t like the way people post is kinda lame.
I think you guys should just give this a chance, you guys post way more than anyone from Toronto anyways. But if you guys feel that you deserve your own thread or site or whatever, more power to you. SRK isn’t gonna die because 10-20 people don’t want to get along with the rest.
A Rae’s basement thread while a good point (we have our own site to post about meeting up, if we didn’t we’d probably talk about it in the Sauga thread because we’re a small group of people so it’s not completely irrelevant) does not properly represent how big the Lovegety topic actually is. If the thread was damn small and had very few posts, I’d be inclined to agree with you. I don’t have a problem with any clique. I can openly post in all the Canadian threads with no problem. I’m just merely discussing this situation with what I’m being told.
It’s more or less I’m thinking both sides don’t really want to deal with each other. It’s not just one side. If you guys are fine with Lovegety thread regulars camping and doing silly shit (talking about GG, Blazblue and the like) in the Toronto thread where you may/may not post, all the power to you. I’d tell the Lovegety regulars to suck it up and do the same.
Theres just not enough people who post exclusively in the Toronto thread that have a problem with Lovegetty the arcade or it’s GG regulars. It wasn’t them who said “Go make your own thread we don’t wanna have to hear about GG crap all day”. It was “we just want to have our own thread so we don’t have to deal with Toronto”.
I’m not trying to play the blame game, but I really don’t think there’d be a problem and this is all just a huge overreaction from the GG community. That’s just my opinion though. There were days when if I or someone from Sauga posted here, it’d be shit on all day and night. It just doesnt happen anymore. Theres nothing to be scared about, and even if there was, it’s fucking SRK.
See the problem was that there really wasn’t a problem, until Nazir started bitching about nothing. He was all OMG YOU FAGS SPAM when in reality we barely made a few posts in there a month. And our few posts were just about equal in value to the rest of the bullshit that went on there.
Nazir just got POWERMAD and tried to shove his weight around because he considered it “his thread”. And then Forest Blazer jumped on his dick and mimicked his posts. And people started REALLY spamming the thread to shut you elitist fucks up.
Pui is still cool though. <3
EDIT: Skimmed through the dustloop thread, LOL at people trying to make it a GG vs SRK thing. You guys take shit way too seriously. The Marvel Players hate on the CvS2 players, the CvS2 players hate on the Marvel Players, and the Third Strike players hate on everybody. And nobody takes it seriously. Fucking sandy vaginas.
I don’t really know (or care) who is who in this argument and part of me wants to make a dumb interweb comment to make this even more entertaining for all of SRK who isn’t affected by this, but I’d rather use my outsider position to offer an observation more objective than those involved can afford to make…
You are all gamers, and have more reasons to be uniting. It seems like some people are scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses not to relax and accept the presence of other gamers. I dont think two people have to play the same game from the same town and use the same characters to get along… zoom out and compare this to a larger world scale if necessary, but shake your restrictive perspective for a second and realise that you only have to gain from a union.
I think it’s good that this is happening and it is in turn surfacing these issues for resolving - some of this crap being argued about seems years old and desperately needs to rest.
Means of separation only serve to embitter and disempower those involved, and is a de-evolutionary, anti-spiritual and small-minded thing to embrace.
I say yes to a united Toronto, and weak to those who seek to tarnish it’s international reputation and the dedication of those Torontonians before you.
fuck having the same thread.
1 thread for sandbaggers
1 thread for the real gamers
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seriously though none of this would happen if people didnt find comfort sitting behind a computer screen talking smack.
i mean look at matt: a nonstop e-trash talker whose the biggest pussy fart irl known to man.
God I hate you, I really do.
Pot meet kettle, etc etc
I fail to see your point. If youre trying to point out that i was trash talking, i wasnt.
Obvious observations are safe.
I’d like to set a motion for the Hamilton thread to be killed.
Those fuckers live too damn far away.