the thing that shows you when to hit buttons is awesome and really it should be in like every game
lol yea it should
ok so I figured out how teching throws work a little. When you pick epon as your main character, the tech point seems to coincide with here “ahhh” sound as she’s getting thrown. Since every throw has different tech time I think, using the audio cue seems to be pretty consistent. I will fuck around with other characters to see if they make sounds as well for their tech time.
I suggest you guys go through the throw shit in training mode as it covers every throw with the character you’re up against and tells you where the tech time is. Once you see the screen where you choose the throw you want, you have to hit the circle button to activate CPU dummy to throw.
Sorta similar to GGXX’s ability to show when the FRC point is for moves?
i never knew it had that, i’ve always just done my messing around in vs mode. good to know
yea like that but more in depth.
the game will tell you the frames for all normals. The just frame timing by flashing inputs. When you hit a button, the game tells you which inputs can then be inputted after it. When to tech a throw and you get the cpu to throw you for all the basic throw setups which is quite a bit.
The game goes over like 99% of each characters normals. A character like chaco has a hidden move that the game doesn’t tell you about in any way but once you do it, the game tells you the options after. It leaves a little bit of room to explore some of the engine.
really in depth training mode for any game really but it was released in the mid 90’s which is far ahead of its time. The people that made this game eventually went to help make tekken\VF and vf4 has a really deep training mode. I’m sure they got some ideas from tobal 2.
afro cole\jeron talking a little about tobal 2.
http://shoryuken.com/threads/113840-TOBAL-2-Money-Matches!!!-BYOC?p=3132754&viewfull=1#post3132754
Nice to see some OG’s actually touched this game.
My Chaco is godlike.
really? she’s fucking retarded hard to use properly. Can you post any notes on her?
Honestly, I would love to. I looked at that post on the other page about her combos, and a lot of that looks like some stuff that I’ve done.
I have no way of playing the game right now. My GFX card can’t handle it on my current system (integrated). Haven’t played in a few years, but when I did, I had a fuckton of Youtube videos up of 40-70% combos with her. At least 20 videos.
If I get it running, I’ll give some stuff on priority moves.
OK, some random stuff that I remember…
She has her launcher (db+h??) that you can land a four hit combo from, I think it’s H, H, M, H.
After that, side step once up and hit L, L for two more hits. If they quick get up, they have to block low, but you’re at a safe distance to avoid most punishment.
If you get the two hits, you can f, f, L (I think that’s it) for some spin kick thing that hits low. It’s really decieving. The combo + the spin kick thing was about 60%, iirc
She also has a few chain throws, that I don’t recall how to do. I just remember that I used to do something where she would suplex you then break your arm, and from there, I would juggle you up from the ground and get another 20% off. Total, you get about 50%
Her 70% combo was a four-hit ground chain into a juggle, then H, H, L, and then a move that was like Julia’s in Tekken… where she leans forward and punches you with both hands.
If you guys can figure that out from the descriptions, thumbs up. I don’t recall the inputs though.
About priority… She’s to be played like Elena in 3S, where there’s a lot of weird mixups that are meant to be done at specific distances. You need to learn these distances to do them, but because of them, you can work at a variety of things to easily push people out of the ring. She has a rolling low kick, a side-step jump kick, and these 3 and 4 hit ground strings that give people a good push. The entire time, you should be working at getting your opponenet into the correct distances. When in close, just try to play throw games, as her close-game is weaker. H’s in close suck and I think her mids are a bit slow? There are a few things you can do in close, but I forget them now.
I have the ROM… So I’ll try to get somewhere to play the game.
Bumping this godlike game thread.
I’m wondering has anyone done any work on Fei?
I’ve played this game for at least 20 years. I know a whole lot about it basically from learning by playing so much. Just Frame Throw Breaks, Just Frame Combos, Power Moves. I have no idea why this wasn’t translated into Ehrgeiz. This game answers a lot of questions when i sit and think about what next gen games dont have. I little while ago i acquired a version someone fully translated including quest mode. In my perfect world the FGC would pick this game up and take the scene by storm :). Ask me questions. Im going to put up some videos soon.
dont know how I missed this thread until now. TOBAL 2 IS MY FAVORITE GAME!
Thanks making this thread and the info it has.
I’ll be trying to gather enough interest for a Tobal 2 side tourney at evo 2013. Lets do it for OLIEMS!
doc wanna try to link up and play online?
Sure, but right now I’m in crunch so I’m working a lot. I’ll PM you.