“You will learn so much more from losing, than you ever will from winning. You just have to understand that if you want to improve. Learn from your mistakes, and try not to make them next time.”
inb4 trolls saying ‘wtf do i learn by getting bodied’.
Well done, it applies for every FG or head-to-head game out there.
Modern gamers are spoiled by the many team-carrying FPS games and single-player games with infinite kontinues.
Few remember when you actually cared how many lives were left before you had to restart from world 1-1. Or when you had to throw in another coin at the arcade machine for a salty runback. Your coin counted that much more.
Today? Ragequit, join new room, beast on a noob, rack up wins, hey “i’m x ranked on y leaderboard, aren’t I da best?”
i used to play fighters a TON growing up, but as I got older arcades died. then with fighting games going online and having the competition in your living room, that is when i started to get back into it. infact, i didn’t even know about the local scenes at all until SF4 came out and I started visiting here regularly and I think Sabin actually pointed me in the direction of the regional forums on here.
the reason that i enjoy fighters so much more (for competition) than FPS is that reason you give above. if you lose, it is 100% on you. it has nothing to do with where you spawned in the map, the map design, what weapon your opponent had that you couldn’t have, your teammates sucking, etc, etc. if you lose in a fighter, it is because you were outplayed no matter what the reason is. you have absolutely no one to blame except yourself if you lose.
the same goes for if you win, it is 100% because you outplayed your opponent. i also really enjoy the mind games in fighters as well, because it gives you a mental workout. in FPS you can do that too, with flanks and trying to bait people out to get them shot, but again it usually revolves around teamwork.
^purbeast
I used to play RTS games. Then wanted a bit more of a challenge and went into fighters - always liked SF/MK and used to play this lame Chinese poverty game called Sango Fighter on DOS. Never did enjoy FPS games unless it was FFA - and when health actually mattered. Nowadays, just hide and your health regenerates… what fun is that!? The last FPS I took seriously was UT2004, and the last one I played on console with any satisfaction was Halo CE - think this was the last one before health became a non-issue.
I’m not sure if I’m getting trolled here. Please help. Otherwise, glad you enjoyed my story and felt it necessary to say so.
I’m in the same boat as you, feel like im not learning anything because literally all it is online is scorpions that only use FP, FP, FP, spear, hellfire, teleport punch and sweep randomly and its just a guessing game
Yes, a million times yes. I’ve learned so much about my main characters in these past two days. I’ve only met two or three opponents who actually gave me a hard time, and I saw myself actually smiling when I lost. I’ve learned to be more patient with certain attacks (and not just do them because your basic Scorpion-nub goes for it), bait attacks/moves from the opponent more inconspicuously (This is the best thing for me) etc… My mindgame has improved a lot, same with my friends. In any game for that matter. I’m finally actually losing to my friends on Super SFIV, and it feels great. I notice glaring holes in my play-style.
I JUST played a Kabal that did nothing expect sweeps, speedrun and uppercut if he got me stunned and kicked his ass. Some of these guys have sent me messages saying “GG” after I beat them and I’m just there looking at the message like “WTF?”.
IMO, the Smokes I’ve ran into are the worse (3 hit BNB, DID IT? NO? TELEPORT ANYWAY! Sweep? Hit? Yes! Sweep again then teleport! We should get a flowchart going for them). Also, any Raiden or Kano player I see with 100+ wins and like 10 losses and I can pretty much tell what 4 moves they’re going to use the entire match. So far anyway.
On a brighter side, I don’t have much of a issue with lag.
I ran into a decent Sonya before that fight though.
Yeah there are a lot of flow charts out there at the minute (wonder why noones made any charts yet?!). In general, expect your opponent to do random supermans, spears, teleport punches etc - especially if they are full screen/you landed a knock-down or X-ray. Block the incoming attack (can’t stress that enough) then punish accordingly.
If they are any good, they will stop and realize random shit won’t work against you and will have to switch things up. Or rage quit.
Lastly: play patiently and download your oppnent’s play style/pattern as quick as you can (if you are patient and block enough, you’ll have them figured out in round 1) Once downloaded, force them to switch it up by punishing/interrupting their game plan.
Really, I get what your saying. Actually, I’m mostly having issues with Raidens and Kano.
If I get commited to block the Raiden will just constantly teleport behind me to throw or sweep. He/they would whiff a superman and not even a second later out comes another. Raidens kick overhead string(don’t know inputs) is also crazy once your in a corner. It’s like it’s a damn loop, feels like you can’t get out and you pretty much can’t. In short, Raiden is TOO safe.
It doesn’t matter if I win or lose because I can tell they suck ass when they can’t even figure out how to block low when I do Ermac’s f+4(7%) so many times in a row. They just decide to break it.
I won’t go into Kano, but he really doesn’t need to recover faster -_-.
I saw you in the London room yesterday and tried to send some challenges but you were too busy playing P_facekilla.
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Regarding corner traps and overheads during combos, it can be near impossible to block these online as lag can and does cause delay in your inputs. I know of Raiden’s over-head combo…if the lag is horrible, I finish the match and simply don’t play that guy again. Fortunately, I’ve had ok connections with any raiden players so far, only one where it was really bad - impossible to react to his overhead combo or do anything.
What I think helps in general is figuring out is when a loss was a loss, and when it was bullshit. In the case of it actually being a loss, by all means vent but it’s important to ask yourself: “what did I do wrong - did I whiff a move, how did he get me into the corner, where did my opponent get the most damage from” etc ?
If you (plural) can’t identify that or don’t know how to deal with a specific move, then feel free to ask myself (via pms) or anyone else on the forums (could check Test Your Might - The Front Page also)
In the case of bull shit (delayed inputs etc/lag etc) then it might simply be better to fight someone else. If you can’t shake off any negative thoughts or you’ve lost your motivation (and that is having an impact on your performance), try simply taking a break from the game - you need to be in the mood to learn and noone’s in the mood 24/7.
Finally, do remember everyone loses at some point, so try not to let a loss discourage you.
Great advice!, I look forward to reading your future posts on how to become a better player; I just got into the fighting game scene with MvC3 and i’m getting addicted to MK9 quickly but the one flaw I have is just what you mentioned; I get stressed too easily, is there anything you can say to yourself or do in the heat of the moment to bring your mind out of an enraged state and into a calm logically thinking one?
I’m gonna try hanging the nerd rage picture near my tv and see if that can make me laugh and calm down when i’m mad, for some reason seeing that makes me realize how stupid I must look when i’m mad so I calm down:rofl:
If anyone here wouldn’t mind showing me the ropes when the ps store comes back up so I can redeem my online pass code to play please add me on PSN for sparring, I don’t rage online or nothing and wouldn’t be upset with taking a friendly whooping.