Tiers for obscure games

I can somewhat answer this.

For Tekken 1, King was god tier above everyone because of two things: His d1,2 was a low, mid, as duck jabs where true lows in T1 instead of s.mid like in T2 and beyond, with the usual duck jab speed, so it was very easy to keep people out and interrupt them with this, and his df+1 gave ridiculous frame advantage on both block and hit allowing him guaranteed followups on both.

Tekken 2 is a bit more complicated, almost everyone does around 80% in any combo, but there are a few characters who can do 100%. IIRC Wang, Jack, and Mishimas at least. Wang was silly because like Ogre in T3, his Waning Moon grab cannot be broken and he can do a 100% from that. Paul was good too because his ff+2 was safe and since there were no side stepping meant there wasn’t much one could do against it, can’t reverse it because it’s an elbow. His deathfist did major damage as usual too.

For Tekken 3, read this: http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=95302

God damn t3 ogre lol

Ya I jumped in when 4 came out, so that’s good to know. Other ones seemed pretty bleh. Wish wii ones hadn’t screwed it up.

If I remember correctly wasn’t Kazuya the best in Tekken 2?
Something about Mist Stepping…

The best ones for the Wii are actually Rev3 and Special. I kinda find Rev3 just as good if not better than 4. If anyone is planning to get Special now, be prepared to pay 100 bucks and higher.

Ya but the first 1 or 2 pretty bleh game breaking glitches with Kankurou and having to ban certain techniques because they were to powerful (backwards up+A of Gaara’s which lead to a free unblockable combo ANYWHERE on screen which with his above average anti-knj lead to easy free wins if it wasn’t banned). I did see one of the more recent one’s that looked cool. Where Sasuke’s Amaterasu seemed ridiculous. Not sure how that panned out. I’ll look into them.

Jecht is cheap in Dissidia. Sasori is cheap in Storm 2. That fucken tilt!

Tidus was the best in the original Japanese version (so I’ve heard.)
In the overseas release it’s Zidane. Exdeath is techinally unbeatable, but only if played extremely well. Zidane, however, is master of air-to-air combat, and since all combat is done in the air, he basically destroys almost all the cast due to being quick enough to counter moves and abusing Snooze and Lose. I believe Terra was tops too.
In Dissidia 12 it’s either Ultimecia, Sephiroth, or Exdeath. Ulti can zone forever and Hell’s Judgement is stupidly difficult to avoid when timed right. Sephiroth has an extremely abusable projectile plus good bravery and HP moves (Heaven’s Light is very sneaky.) Exdeath is extremely difficult to approach still due to his counters, plus thanks to Maelstorm and Black Hole you can’t sit back on him. Of course, any character can be dangerous with the right assist (Kuja, Jecht, Aerith, Sephiroth.)

Jecht can be good in the right hands but he takes a lot of work compared to those people.

Zidane had a 9 frame Brv attack that chained to an HP attack, note the fastest brv attack not on Zidane was 15 frames. Zidane was the best at everything but zoning in that game but it didn’t matter seeing how he could easily punish everything. Still think being able to kill with an HP attack after an EX burst is dumb as fuck. And 012 would be better than the first if it didn’t neuter the fuck out of characters when they removed Quickl Dodge Cancels and gave characters like Garland nothing to compensate for it.

Basically anyone with a hax block is in the top tiers.

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My reasoning for Jecht’s tier placement.
I was Level 100. He was Level 20.

EX Bursts were retarded in general.

Triad, you simply got your arrow reflected back at you. Reflected moves use the brave of the user since it is techinally their move (an Emperor’s Flare will damage him using his brave if it is reflected.) Basically you killed yourself.

That’s the joke, my friend.

I remember finishing the game with Vertigo (MS-DOS version). all I had to do was duck and hit constantly, CPU would fall for that.

Let’s keep the streak of new posts going!

Revised Ranma 1/2 Hard Battle Tier list. I had to revise this due to realizing a lot of characters were better/worse than I thought, plus throws are a bit overpowered.

Ranma Hard Battle

Top (Not in order):
Happosai -Too short to get hit by most attacks, two button press AA that takes off quite a bit.
Akane- Had to change my mind about her. Her specials are very good. Her rush punch leaves her at an advantage unless pulled off close and her uppercut has extremely good invincibility. Also her normal’s aren’t too shabby.
Genma- His damage is just too good for mid tier. A two button command throw that takes off a third of HP and leaves him right next to the opponent? C’mon son.
Girl Ranma- Fast Double jump, very ambiguous head stomp that puts her on the ground at frame advantage, 2button AA that basically stuffs almost any jump ins, fast walk speed allowing her to throw easily, and great normals. Can get knocked out of the air easily though.

High:
Pantyhose Regular- Fire kick and his HP are extremely high priority, extremely safe, extremely fast, extremely abusuable. That’s 4x extreme.
Ryoga- His 2 button press Ki move is godly for spacing and damage, his projectiles are alright, and his normals are amazingly far reaching, Can be caught off guard if someone gets close to him though.

Mid:
Male Ranma- Slower Female Ranma. Harder to work with, but works.
Shampoo- Very good DP and double jump, but that’s about it.
Monster Pantyhose- I thought he was good till I saw he gets thrown out of the most simplest stuff. His Dive punch and bull charge need to be abused in order for him to win.

Low:
Mousse
Ukoyo
King
Gosunkugi
All are worse than the people above em (cept MAYBE Mousse,)

Had a couple of PR matches last night, and I didnt wanted to necromance my old PR thread just to post matches ha!

There you go (bad quality vid and LOL at the youtube preview pic)

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So Grim Reaper is in the only fighting game where you can’t cheat Death? xDD

Tiers for:
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[]KOF Maximum Impact
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]Flying Dragon (N64)
[]Bleach: Shattered Blade
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]Kensei: Sacred Fist
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That begs the question:

If Akane and Makoto from SF3 fought, who would win?

Ryu :coffee:

Spoiler

Akane has a better DP but Makoto has a better everything else.