Tiers for obscure games

I think this is better:

God/Retarded Tier
Eyedol
Cinder

Top Tier
Orchid
Riptor

Mid/high Tier
Glacius
Spinal

Mid Tier
Sabrewulf
Combo
Jago

Low Tier
Fulgore
Thunder

Fulgore can be pretty crappy too, so I don’t think he should be seperated from the Chief.

Cinder was so broken, Rare just thought that it was better to kill him off than to attempt to rebalance him for KI2.

i always felt that fulgore was much more than low tier, i used to main it back in the day and i always felt him like a mid tier char

KI2 tiers?

Is Tusk upper mid or top in that one?

There is no clear cut tier list for KI2 on killerinstinctonline.net. As far as Tusk, he’s often either considered dead last in the mid tier or top of low tier. The only things that are certain are that Maya is always considered the worst in the game while Fulgore, Glacius, and Jago are considered #1-3 in that order.

Jago top tier in KI2?

Damn!!!

Sabrewulf is pretty good too, and he has an execution barrier that a two year old could handle. Charge moves, without the charge!

Since the same questions always get asked here, and since I have no life, I figured I’d compile the most informative posts into text files. If the O.P. wants to edit this in, or if someone ends up making a new thread and wants to include this, go right ahead.

Anyway, this is basically every single tier-related post made in the thread, save for the most recent Killer Instinct discussion. I got rid of most of the filler, and all of the “SF3/SF4/MvC2/Smash hurrrr” posts. I also didn’t bother to include the tiers or discussion for a few of the more actively-played games (Smash and Soul Calibur come to mind), and since the SNES TMNT TF has a thread or two around these parts, I only included posts about the Genesis version. All those tiers can be easily found elsewhere.

Generally, if a post was like “for (GAME), (CHARACTER) is the best”, or something minimalist like that, I didn’t bother to include it. Serious business effort posts only!

The presentation here is barebones, I may or may not end up tidying everything up to better translate to plain text. A few “back-and-forth” replies can be a bit confusing to read, I tidied the most confusing ones up manually, but I’m sure there’re still some that are sub-optimal.

Still, the information is at least somewhat valuable, and some of the more in-depth analysis are interesting reads. It’s a lot better than reading through 85 pages of Shaq-Fu requests and Street Fighter trolling, and a lot more effective than searching the thread for (Super Hyper Intense Tournament GAME) when everyone who discussed it called it (S.H.I.T. GAME).

So, enjoy, SRK.

Tiers for Obscure Fighting Games.rar (127KB .RAR file, extracts to its own folder)

Wow, that’s some good shit man. Big props for going out to do that.

Hell, I have my settings to display pages as 100 posts per and there’s 14 pages. Damn.

That must’ve taken a while, but thanks for the lists.

The Rar file is amazing. thanks for the link.

street fighter ex3?

That’s not a shitty fighting game, and EX series has its own thread.

Martial Champion anyone?

All I hear EX series usually have for top tier was basically Gief . However some mentioned Gief wasn’t top in EX2 Plus ( probably Vanilla EX as well ) . EX2 Plus is my favorite of the bunch and was something I really want to experiment with other people but connections on how to play with others online was difficult . Playing mame online with this game required decent specs for a computer ( Maybe 2007-2008 good at least ) which mostly every person I played had lag issues . Easy way to tell is if the sound is skipping .

If anyone can play EX2 Plus on mame decent without using PSX plugins , please hit me up so maybe we can try to play sometime .

I technically like Arcade version more since I rather prefer the extra graphics and animations/faster loading/music over the console version . Unless someone reveals a really broken combo by one character that the console version doesn’t have than I may be convinced .

Arcade version Garuda is technically a lot stronger compared to home console counterpart due to nerfing Shuuga while in excel mode .

Sagat ( My main in EX2 Plus for now ) I think has crazy zoning options once he gots meter . When Sagat gets meter and your far away , consider yourself eating a High Tiger Cannon by jumping from tiger shots since it’s hella fast ! As a Sagat there really is no reason to use Excel since your going to need all that meter for either High Tiger Cannon baits or Tiger Genocide from bnb combos/reaction to anything done wrong by your opponent .

Sagat isn’t that good. Upper mid tier at best. EX series simply isn’t about zoning.

Best motherfuckers in EX plus are Russo, Sharon, Area, Doctrine Dark, Garuda, Bison and a few other secret chars and Skullomania.

Russo and Sharon sit squarely as the top 2 though.

I’m probably reaching, but does anyone have tiers for Buriki One? That was a fun, if somewhat confusing game.

The one thing I didn’t like about EX series was how supers were like 0 frames or something once the effects come up , so if you were moving forward and the shadow effects came , you can’t block it :sad: .

I also noticed that it’s possible to Excel your way out of his High Tiger Genocide by its invincibility .

Weird, Maya has a move that breaks the rock/scissors/paper rule in KI2. In fact, Maya is so broken that when you pick her here, ppl start calling stuff at you. Tusk is almost dead last, as Fulgore. I dont really agree with what they posted there. Well its an old game that never really got the attention it wanted hehe

IMO and based on the players here IN NO ORDER:

Top :

Maya: broken special moves, almost dont need normals, BF+QP in wakeup is TOTALLY invincible for like 2 seconds and launches for a follow up that can be a Super for easy 45%. BF+MP is up there with Sabrespin after a Sabre hop. Both moves are ULTRA BROKEN.

Sabrewulf: Sabre spin (FB+MK) after a Sabre hop (FF or BB) makes it spin twice. If blocked it does like 10% of chip, if connects, free combo. Nothing else is needed. BF+FK is invincible AA and can conect a super after it. Jumping HCB+FP dizzies opponents but needs meter.

High Tier (can hold with top and beat bottom)
Orchid
Spinal
Jago

Middle-Bottom (they dont do shit)
Combo
Fulgore
Kim Wu
Tusk (can be middle sometimes, counterpick doesnt favors him, beats combo for free)

For the KI tiers:

Watch Jago beating a very good Cinder on this 2009 tourney:

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Can you link me to some Sabrewulf and Fulgore vids, Hanzo?

Also what happened at 2:18 in that vid?

Basically the equivalent of the babyality from MK. A fatality of sorts that forces the dead opponent to dance.