Tiers for obscure games

Actually, me and some friends came up with a tier list a while back, it looks a lot like this:

Banned/S+
Duragon
Mugetsu 2

S tier
Dominique +10
Volt +7

A tier
Kaldea +4
1st form Mugetsu +2
Sion +2

B tier
Leann 0
Wong -.5

C tier
Echidna -1
Kou -4

D tier
PD4 -13.5

Duragon 1 is actually the most broken due to the first hit of his kick rekka. Incredibly safe on block, a pressure string in itself (meaning defense rape*, and doing First Hit pause x N is an infinite. so you pretty much just mash the first hit non stop and win. The otehr forms are bullshit as well, but Duragon 1 takes the cake :confused:

Mugetsu’s 2nd form has that retarded spin bullshit. beats out every move in the game and is very rarely punishable depending on which direction he flies in. Also too fast to punish the activation of it. Mugetsu 1 is significantly worse, but not bad. some of the quickest jabs in the game, Gen-setsu (Heaven) and Gen-setsu (Hell) are decent for okizeme, but I don’t really remember much else D:

Grapplers easily top the tier list beyond that, since EVERYTHING in this game, jabs and Duragon’s rekka withstanding, are unsafe on block by Volt/Dominique’s throw, leading to BIG damage. Volt’s strategy is to turtle, then throw, then combo that throw into Giant Swing, which OTGs. Throws make it a little bit harder, but Volt can still do offensive grabs. His normals are trash though. Volt’s bad matchups are Dominique and Wong, Dominique’s only bad matchup is Sion. Kaldea and Wong also break even with her

Wong is very interesting, and is probably one of the few characters with mixup. Running grab AND running unblockable make him a serious threat to turtling characters, but his damge is only decent, and if you react you can run away. He should probably be higher, but whatever

Kaldea is also interesting. In most of her matchups, you’ll prefer panther form, which has a tackle grab, a modestly safe normal tackle, and a jab infinite if you hit them from behind and in a corner. her Human form is very niche, and only really preferable against Mugetsu and Echidna

Dominique has both a damaging throw AND can punish with Destruction Upper -> Ground Pound which does GIGANTIS damage.

PD4 is just trash, everything gets beaten out, has to fight from a distance, and his normals are ALL unsafe except maybe his jab.

Echidna is ok. Very weird normals that are easy to block and generally unsafe, but usually move her in random directions, making her difficult to counter. a lot of her normals also tend to whiff though. x:

Leann is pretty average as well. Her Fei long Flame Kick esque move beats out a ton of stuff, but she has little outside of it.

Kou has a throw, but it does shit damage and sends the opponent far, far away from him. his only real damage is Circular Uppercut loop: Circular Uppercut x 1~4 (random, based on character), xx Axe Kick, but he’s usable, unlike PD4.

It should be noted that Blocking is TOO GOOD in this game, since theres no mixup outside of throwing, and everything is punishable on block. shit is rediculous

For 96

The top is Chin, Iori and Clark, with Mr. Big, Mature, Choi, Leona and a few other gimmick characters like Mai close behind.

Iori’s light dp does SIX TICKS ON BLOCK: it’s completely safe. His run grab thing is also safe, even in the corner. Rekkas do hella and have redic stun to boot. Jump CD and stand CD are both great, but not incredible.

Clark only needs to land 3~4 command grabs to win. Jump CD is dope too.

Chin wins almost every matchup for free except for Iori and Kasumi because they have a ground fireball.

Leona does huge damage off of cheeseball of death (you can combo off it too hehe) and also has that c.hp->moving ground slash rep bullshit. Her jump CD is incredible too.

Goro is up there because of his option select off of jump in lp.

Mr. Big definitely has a great air CD game. He’s like 2k Chang. His standing CD is one of the best as well.

Mature has the best ground CD in the game, and it’s the fastest as well. Jump CD leaves a bit to be desired, but with stand CD you really won’t need much else.

Krauser is an incredible turtle character due to the game’s rolling distance. He can throw fireballs and jump CD all day.

Choi has insane damage in his Crossup hp -> c.lpx2 -> tornado. s.lp has godlike priority and range to boot.

Geese has an easy Max Mode infinite.

Vice doesn’t have anything :frowning:

I’d like to see some Dissidia: Final Fantasy tiers in here.

How about a Primal Rage tier list?
Chaos’ Fart of Fury is OP.

Close, though Chaos had an infinite combo with Fart of Fury… My list:
S+: Chaos
S: Blizzard/Talon
A: Sauron/Vertigo/Diablo
C: Armadon

Is their a tier for Def Jam: Icon, haha.

Uhh no. Both are wrong. And also Primal Rage dont has any know inf to date:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=128765&highlight=primal+rage

BTW PR is one of the most underrated games of all time.

I will do War Gods soon, that game was played hard here. Remember that in Arcade the game had NO combo breakers wich were added to console release, otherwise Voodo has 100% combos off a wake up special.

I don’t really have a reliable source, but the one place I saw one at had:

Top tier
TIDUS (lolwut)
Exdeath

High
Zidane
Golbez
Kuja
Ultimecia
Jecht

Mid
Shantotto
Firion
Buttz
Terra
Gabranth
Cloud of Darkness
Cecil
Warrior of Light

Low
Squall
Cloud
Onion Knight
Emperor
Sephiroth
Kefka
Garland

Mango-kun, for The Bouncer, shouldn’t Sion be at least immediately under, if not equal to Dominique? There was no wake-up game to speak of in The Bouncer and Sion had the best unblockable in the game.

Besides that though, does anyone have a list for Tobal No. 1?

The first and third versions of Dauragon are greater than everyone, but basically, Dauragon is greater than everyone, followed by Mugetsu(both versions).

Slap Happy Rhythm Busters

GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

O_O
IT! IS! GOOD!
FUCK YES!!! :rock:

Kabal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>umk3 cast.

Fixed it for you.

Saying Kabal isn’t the utter top in UMK3 is like saying Cinder isn’t the Utter Top in KI.

Is there a Tier list for Zone Of The Enders: 2nd runner?

Was an amazing game just the vs mode sucked ass.

So broken, jump twice against Kabal and you’re dead.

TIME KILLERS!

Nuff said

I know that Duragon and Mugetsu are easily the top 2 in The Bouncer, I was just saying that Sion might be too low on the tier list. Sion’s unblockable is easily the best one in the game and knocks down the opponent.

if i remember correctly
S tier Vic Viper, Naked Jehuty
A Tier all the other Jehuties (except damage Jehuty), Nephtis
B Tier Anubis (im not sure about him he could be B- or even C), Aumaan Anubis (he could be A, but im not sure), damage Jehuty,
C tier Ardjet (she could be low, D), Inhert (maybe im wrong, he could be B)

More like 3 times, and just because you can’t make stupid mistakes like jumping, doesn’t mean it’s broken. Jumping at unsafe times in high level, well, just doesn’t happen. UMK3 plays alot differently than other games, you can’t jump as often and you really don’t need to. That’s why you have a run button.

But yes, Kabal is top tier, that’s unarguable. He can be beat though.