I really don’t think UMK3 counts as a shitty fighting game. Hell, it still gets tournaments fairly often…and has a surprisingly large top tier.
Top tier is Kabal, Human Smoke, Reptile, Kung Lao, Kano, Ermac, Nightwolf, Sindel, Jax, and Robot Smoke. Mid tier is Sonya, Kitana, Stryker, Scorpion, Sub Zero, Jade, and Liu Kang. Bottom is Mileena, classic Sub Zero, Sektor, Sheeva, Shang Tsung, and Cyrax.
Considering 10 out of a cast of 22 are good tourney choices, and 7 more are at least doable…the game doesn’t seem so bad.
Acid Spitting while invisible left a weird frame of his face for a brief second. Actually, any special move that wasn’t a slide left weird frames.
The force ball was not only too slow but it would decompose while a character timed his jump, which was weird because the ball would disappear as if the character got hit by it - but he/she really did not.
Ranma had some safe chains and a good anti air. But the thing is none of them rape like Ryoga’s do. Further more, Ryoga didn’t have to jump in to start his. If Ryoga hit you with a headbut, you were going to get dizzied, which then led to you getting killed. Ranma hitting you with a jump in meant 60% of your life tops. But he’s more or less a poor man’s ryoga in that game. His anti air has less range and less safe since Kuno can poke right through Hiryu Shoten Ha. His fireball is the same range, but smaller. Overall, I’d say Ranma was around upper mid tier to mid tier
maxter and heavyarms have infinites they can start from anywhere.
heavyarms and deathscythe and epyon are arguably top three, as heavyarms fills the screen with a nigh unstoppable projectile game, deathscythe has almost unlimited unblockable resets available from the start of the match, and epyon’s rushdown is basically the best in the game.
the most current tier list is:
Boss - Neue Ziel, Dark G, Big Zam, Psycho
( all the bosses should be banned and for good reason )
Top Tier - Heavyarm, Deathsythe, Epyon, Hydra
( hydra belongs in this class because he’s basically good at everything, he can bubble shield through a lot of shit, he has a far chipping laser which helps a lot, and he has very good normals especially cr.lk )
Semi- top Tier- RX-78, Tallgeese III, Wing Zero, FAZZ, Quin Mantha
( RX-78 deserves to be up there almost exclusively for his OTG super game which can kill and his very good normals but he has bad matchups with everyone above )
Upper Mid Tier- Zeong, Burning, Maxter, Rose, Master ( Master and Rose might be a little better than their ranking )
Mid Tier- V gundam, Bolt, Dragon, Altron ( Dragon might be a little better due to his unblockable setups but they’re actually pretty hard sooooo )
Low Tier- Sandrock, Sazabi, GP02, Zaku
Crap Tier- Acguy, Hygogg, Ball
And Maxter has infinites? This is happy news to me because he used to be the character I played as all the time besides DS. Videos plz. O_O
Also can’t you just cut through most of Heavyarms’ projectiles (well save for his gatling gun and unblockable missiles) with a beam projectile or something like Deathscythe’s Buster Slash? I remember HA getting raped pretty hard by Wing Zero for that reason, and I’ve even seen Nu Gundam totally eat up his projectiles with stand HK (the triple-fin-funnel normal). As a matter of fact, I remember him doing super up close to me when I played as Burning only for me to super and totally eat through all his projectiles.
Speaking of which, I also need to see these unblockable resets. I know that bubble shield will eat up DS’s Buster Slash and all his scythe attacks, which is an absolute minus for him.
Not broke, but he was incredibly solid. Pretty good normals, combos did great damage, and he had an excellent ammo-based projectile. But, good luck trying to catch a human opponent with the beam saber super.
also an aside, i have no clue how good the hacked characters are, never used em
if i remember correctly the only thing that really put ZaKu IIS slightly above normal Zaku was improved speed / boost ( he could basically tech out of shit REALLY FAST ) but what sucked was faster ammo consumption ( i can’t remember if cracker grenade came out faster? my copy isnt working at the moment, maybe i’ll try epsxe ), all i remember was cracker grenade was stupidly safe
Maxter infinite was something like random crouching normals into his command forward step ( dp+kick or maybe it was f,d,f,k ) repeat until you get bored
he could link stuff between that move and double step, kind of like Steve Fox special movement or something
Heavyarms could just catch you with cr.lk xx qcb+hp missiles, dash lk xx missiles, repeat xN
bubble shield characters are good against him, yes, that’s why hydra and epyon are in the same rank because they can cut through his offensive if they predict him accurately, and deathscythe because scythe reflects projectiles and can teleport to get in
the problem with trying to catch him midscreen after activating is he has an invincible back hop :looney:
also, really, wing zero only has one decent projectile to fight heavy with - buster rifle has decent startup and tracks- well, this is also not counting the fact that his super is AHVB to the nth so if heavy gets too froggy zero can just beam super and hop over whatever he’s throwing out at the time - this is of course blowing a third of your super stocks soooooo
his slide though, more than anything, probably helps his cause a lot because not a lot of characters have a move as useful as that
i seem to remember his bird charge having a lot of invincibility on startup?
really i just used to win with him by doing runaway buster rifle back in the day, though… -_-;
and oh boy a Heavyarms would NEVER let Burning get that close, it’s bad enough he doesn’t have any guns and NO LONG RANGE GAME WHATSOEVER, Burning loses that matchup pretty freakin’ badly actually but in the rare case Burning gets in close he can just cr.lp cr.lp xx sex
and the general idea behind deathscythe’s resets was something like cr.lp xx bust slash to chip, then dashing cr.HP unblockable xx qcb+hk teleport to safety land, i’m pretty sure hydra would shield right through that but all bubble shield dash does is stop projectiles so duo could just super him from behind the spinny slash as he approaches and then warp over to him and set up another unblockable ( cr.HP hitting OTG into chipping scythe was such a really bad idea )
Star Wars: TR = Vader and the dude with the Acid move. I can’t remember his name.
Blade Warriors = No clue
Bushido Blade one: Any one who can wield a staff type weapon
Bushido Blade 2:
Banned = Faggot cowboy/girls with guns
Top Tier: Both the characters who can wield staff based weapons, Nightstalker, HighwayMan
Note: Top tier is in no real order. But, if I had to, I’d put Highway Man, Staff Users, Nightstalker
Haha, for S v G, i haven’t played that much, but i think Mayuri is top character in the game. She has a ton of ways to get into her infinite from anywhere. And im counting the PSP version, which is the one where you can’t do 2A infinites.
Naruto EX1 (for the Wii):
Banned tier:
Kank
S Tier:
Gaara
Temari
Deidara
A Tier:
Itachi
Neji
Naruto
B Tier:
Kisame
Lee
Gai
Kakashi
C Tier:
Sasori (despite his ability to get infinited, i still find him stronger than sakura/tenten)
Sakura
Tenten
Bleh that game is trash.
Naruto EX2: (a bit less trash, but still not as good as GNT4, which is also a “shitty game”, haha)
S tier
Tsunade
Gaara
Itachi
A tier:
Sasuke
Hiruko
Temari
Deidara
Naruto
Kisame
B Tier:
Hinata
Lee
Shino
Shika
Orochi
Chouji
Neji
C tier:
Gai
Kabuto
Sai
Kank
Kiba
PTS Sasuke
PTS Naruto
Sasori
Jiraiya
D Tier:
Sakura
Tenten
Kakashi
Asuma
Yamato
I dont think i missed anyone, but that should be it. If you want reasoning, just post, but im not gonna post why unless someone specifically wants to know.
