Tiers for non-fighting games?

[Bious]

I actually wrote Falco Knights at first but crossed them off. They do make excellent rally-bots/healers/Emergency Spear Throwers.

[Bious]

Monthly Bump.

Rune Factory 3 Partner Tiers (Villagers only)

Top: Shino, Raven, Sofia, Evylen, Hazel, Kurina

Mid: Everyone else

Bottom: Monica, Shara

[King9999]

I’m interested in Dragon’s Crown tiers. I’m sure Elf will be at the top based on my experience with her and the general opinion towards that class. As far as I know, the patches released thus far haven’t touched her (for better or worse).

I’m not qualified to tier the classes myself as I’ve only used the Elf, but I’m interested in seeing any opinions on the other classes. All I can say about the Elf is that it’s a very strong class, but you have to learn to move a lot. Backstab is an amazing skill and is well worth maxing out, along with Holdout Dagger + Maintenance. Max Evasion is a must since the Elf is fragile.

[Bious]

Elf is pretty bad at crowd control.

The wizard and sorceress are in the top.

[King9999]

Elf is pretty bad at crowd control.

The wizard and sorceress are in the top.

Interesting you would say that, because I find that the Elf is good at crowd control. Clone Strikes + Impact Arrow or a charged upwards shot can knock down multiple enemies at once and do high damage. I won’t argue that the Wiz and Sorc aren’t better at crowd control, but I don’t think the Elf is bad at it.

[Bious]

When I played the Elf most of my deaths came from getting surrounded and not having a good way out of it. She can CC from afar splendidly, but close she’s in trouble.

[AlanEdrick]

magic tiers for legacy

top tier
stone forge mystic
brainstorm
force of will
death rite shaman
nimble mongoose
Delver of Secrets
show and tell
sneak attack
Ponder
Swords to Plowshares
Spell Pierce
Abrupt Decay
Jace the Mind Sculptor
Thoughtseize
Tarmogoyf
Griselbrand
Vendilion Clique
Emrakul the Aeons Torn
Shardless Agent
Baleful Strix

[King9999]

When I played the Elf most of my deaths came from getting surrounded and not having a good way out of it. She can CC from afar splendidly, but close she’s in trouble.

See, that’s where Evasion comes in handy. If you get surrounded, just evade. The i-frames will get you out of trouble. There’s also the Battle Hardened skill which prevents the Elf’s charge from getting interrupted, and it also reduces damage taken. I haven’t used that skill though because evading has helped me out a lot.

[Bious]

When I played the Elf most of my deaths came from getting surrounded and not having a good way out of it. She can CC from afar splendidly, but close she’s in trouble.

See, that’s where Evasion comes in handy. If you get surrounded, just evade. The i-frames will get you out of trouble. There’s also the Battle Hardened skill which prevents the Elf’s charge from getting interrupted, and it also reduces damage taken. I haven’t used that skill though because evading has helped me out a lot.

Evasion helps a lot, but besides that she lacks a truly good “get off me so I can get back and fire arrows” move. She could evade and go into a divekick though.

[shadowcharlie]

Tekken MiniGame tiers… specifically Tekken Ball and Tekken Bowl.

For Bowl:
S
Yoshimitsu
Paul
Bryan
Mishimas

A
All Jacks

B
All girls

C
All else.

Thoughts?
Also, I don’t remember ball much, but I remember that you could d+1 and then d/b+1 with Xiaoyu all day and never lose touch. I’m going with her being S-Tier, but I can’t be sure.

yoshimitsu has terrible power on his throw, just because he has targeting does not make him S same thing with paul having power and no targeting…
imo
S>
jacks
bryan
A
mishimas
kings
paul
B
everyone else doesnt really matter at this point score wise

now there are subtle differences even in the mishimas like their arcs and such for example kaz/devil and lets say hei, with hei being slightly looser on control but more on power…im sure there is a legit breakdown somewhere (either earlier in this thread or on gamefaqs ^^)
all i know is that tragic should have picked better people for the bowling event evo 2k4 --

[ZMangz]

mii force shirt tier list:

top tier:
brown, light blue, white

high tier:
red, blue, orange

mid tier:
pink, light green, yellow, black, purple

roll tier:
dark green

[Evolution169]

Unreal Championship 2 for the original Xbox (because why not >_> )

1v1(survival)

S Tier:
Sobek
Apophis

A+ Tier;
Sapphire
Malcom
Brock
Judas
Necris Selket

A tier:
Anubis
Selket
Lauren
Lilith
Calypso
Devastation

B Tier:
Arclite
Torgr

Shit:
Everyone else

Below Shit:
Raiden

Most who have played it online will probably say Anubis and Selket are A+ tier, but they aren’t off-host, since Warrior Spirit was broken. Wraith > broken Warrior spirit. And Sobek is S tier because EMP burst+Rockets practically broke the game.

[Bious]

Need to adjust my Radiant Historia list.

Radiant Historia Tiers:

S:
Aht (Traps if you can move the enemy, heal and use Cross Star and combo from Dancing Dagger if you can’t. Useful all game.)
Stocke (Main character, so he’s always with you. Jack of all trades. Second best enemy mover (would be first if he had a decent move to move enemies forward.) Basically your Swiss Army Knife; if you need something he’s probably the one to do it.)

S-:
Eruca (Best character in the game but she’s missing from the party a majority of the time, so she is weak endgame (The fact that you get her back after not having her for the last third of the game directly before the final boss doesn’t help.) Still, a beast if you grind her.)

A:

Marco (Great healer and buffer if you don’t have Aht. Better at moving enemies to the front than Stocke. Not great at dealing damage without Aht.)
Rannie (Best at dealing magic damage unless Eruca is nearby or Aht knows Cross Star. Still, she can hit all elemental weaknesses reliably.)

C:
Gafka (Best physical attacker in the game… In the game where magic rules over all, that is. That and his poor defenses put him down here. He can still wreck if used smartly.)
Roche (Gone from the party too often and doesn’t get anything special to make up for it.)

[King9999]

Need to adjust my Radiant Historia list.

Radiant Historia Tiers:

S:
Aht (Traps if you can move the enemy, heal and use Cross Star and combo from Dancing Dagger if you can’t. Useful all game.)
Stocke (Main character, so he’s always with you. Jack of all trades. Second best enemy mover (would be first if he had a decent move to move enemies forward.) Basically your Swiss Army Knife; if you need something he’s probably the one to do it.)

S-:
Eruca (Best character in the game but she’s missing from the party a majority of the time, so she is weak endgame (The fact that you get her back after not having her for the last third of the game directly before the final boss doesn’t help.) Still, a beast if you grind her.)

A:

Marco (Great healer and buffer if you don’t have Aht. Better at moving enemies to the front than Stocke. Not great at dealing damage without Aht.)
Rannie (Best at dealing magic damage unless Eruca is nearby or Aht knows Cross Star. Still, she can hit all elemental weaknesses reliably.)

C:
Gafka (Best physical attacker in the game… In the game where magic rules over all, that is. That and his poor defenses put him down here. He can still wreck if used smartly.)
Roche (Gone from the party too often and doesn’t get anything special to make up for it.)

Here’s my tier list for comparison:

Radiant Historia tiers

S
Aht: At first, I thought she was a really weak fighter, but then I realized that her traps do crazy amounts of damage. Seriously, boss battles can end in mere minutes with her laying traps everywhere, combined with a character who has no problems knocking enemies around the field. Traps also add a lot of hits to the combo counter. In addition to having powerful magic, Aht is a strong healer. Her Lv. 2 Mana Burst is great because it will max out another character’s Mana Burst gauge. Aht is the fastest character in the game, which allows her to get multiple turns.

A
Stocke: main characters usually are high in tier lists, because they’re usually the all-around type. Stocke in particular has to be an all-around fighter since he can’t be taken out of your party. Fortunately, he’s good on most fronts, whether it’s physical or magical attacks. He can offer some healing when you’re in a pinch. He has no problems moving enemies around the field, except he has no way to bring them to the front. His Lv. 3 Mana Burst is very powerful; it targets a single enemy, but that makes it ideal against bosses. Besides, if you can get all the enemies onto one space, they all take damage…this is handy, although it will take some turns getting all the enemies into position.

Gafka: He’s a purely physical attacker with few support options, but that’s all he needs to be effective. Several of his abilities affect multiple targets and simultaneously re-position the enemy. I found myself using Qigong Wave a lot, because it does a ton of damage. The only problem is that it only targets the middle row. Both of Gafka’s Mana Bursts are powerful; using his Lv. 3 on the final boss is a bit silly though. :lol: The only issues with Gafka are his speed and his low MDF.

B
Marco: Marco has some great support magic, and he also has options for positioning enemies on the grid. He has healing magic, but he gets the stronger skills later than other characters, which hurts him a bit. Also, he isn’t particularly powerful, and all of his attack skills are single-target only. His Mana Bursts do not deal damage, but instead they buff the party.

Raynie: Raynie is a spear user, but she has a variety of elemental magic. The problem is, you have to decide whether you want Raynie to be a physical attacker or a magic-user because she can’t do both of them at the same time effectively. I found her Mana Bursts to be worthless, but that’s probably because she didn’t have a high MAG stat when I used her (she was a physical fighter for me). Definitely use her if you like inflicting poison.

Rosch: Rosch is the tank in this game. He has very high HP and DEF at early levels, which means he will hardly die. Several of his attacks can debuff the enemy, though I find that debuff skills in general aren’t as good as they could be. Being a tank, Rosch is the slowest fighter in the game, and usually has to take his turn after both your other characters and the enemy have taken their turns. I prefer his Lv 2. MB over his Lv. 3 simply because of three things: 1) it knocks the enemy into the air, allowing others to slam them to the ground; 2) it targets multiple enemies; 3) If successful, it debuffs their DEF.

C
Eruca: Eruca’s actually quite strong with her magic skills. She has the best resurrection magic in the game, but not much else in the way of healing magic. A major problem with Eruca is her dependency on MP do deal damage, since her physical power leaves a lot to be desired. Even when the enemy has low HP, you still want to use her Mana Shot to make sure the enemy actually dies. Why are guns in RPGs always so weak compared to swords? The upside to her magic attacks is that they’re non-elemental, making them usuable in any situation.

[scum_gale_88]

Windjammers tiers?

I always went with the guys from Spain and Italy. I seem to recall the guy from Spain having CRAZY fast super shot charge ups. I’ve seen players using the USA/Germany guys with surprising effectiveness. The high speed/low power characters are nuts with how they can angle their shots, but throw way slower than anyone else.

My personal list:
Top: Spain, Korea, Italy
Not so top: USA, Germany, Japan

[Bious]

Need to adjust my Radiant Historia list.

Radiant Historia Tiers:

S:
Aht (Traps if you can move the enemy, heal and use Cross Star and combo from Dancing Dagger if you can’t. Useful all game.)
Stocke (Main character, so he’s always with you. Jack of all trades. Second best enemy mover (would be first if he had a decent move to move enemies forward.) Basically your Swiss Army Knife; if you need something he’s probably the one to do it.)

S-:
Eruca (Best character in the game but she’s missing from the party a majority of the time, so she is weak endgame (The fact that you get her back after not having her for the last third of the game directly before the final boss doesn’t help.) Still, a beast if you grind her.)

A:

Marco (Great healer and buffer if you don’t have Aht. Better at moving enemies to the front than Stocke. Not great at dealing damage without Aht.)
Rannie (Best at dealing magic damage unless Eruca is nearby or Aht knows Cross Star. Still, she can hit all elemental weaknesses reliably.)

C:
Gafka (Best physical attacker in the game… In the game where magic rules over all, that is. That and his poor defenses put him down here. He can still wreck if used smartly.)
Roche (Gone from the party too often and doesn’t get anything special to make up for it.)

Here’s my tier list for comparison:

Radiant Historia tiers

S
Aht: At first, I thought she was a really weak fighter, but then I realized that her traps do crazy amounts of damage. Seriously, boss battles can end in mere minutes with her laying traps everywhere, combined with a character who has no problems knocking enemies around the field. Traps also add a lot of hits to the combo counter. In addition to having powerful magic, Aht is a strong healer. Her Lv. 2 Mana Burst is great because it will max out another character’s Mana Burst gauge. Aht is the fastest character in the game, which allows her to get multiple turns.

A
Stocke: main characters usually are high in tier lists, because they’re usually the all-around type. Stocke in particular has to be an all-around fighter since he can’t be taken out of your party. Fortunately, he’s good on most fronts, whether it’s physical or magical attacks. He can offer some healing when you’re in a pinch. He has no problems moving enemies around the field, except he has no way to bring them to the front. His Lv. 3 Mana Burst is very powerful; it targets a single enemy, but that makes it ideal against bosses. Besides, if you can get all the enemies onto one space, they all take damage…this is handy, although it will take some turns getting all the enemies into position.

Gafka: He’s a purely physical attacker with few support options, but that’s all he needs to be effective. Several of his abilities affect multiple targets and simultaneously re-position the enemy. I found myself using Qigong Wave a lot, because it does a ton of damage. The only problem is that it only targets the middle row. Both of Gafka’s Mana Bursts are powerful; using his Lv. 3 on the final boss is a bit silly though. :lol: The only issues with Gafka are his speed and his low MDF.

B
Marco: Marco has some great support magic, and he also has options for positioning enemies on the grid. He has healing magic, but he gets the stronger skills later than other characters, which hurts him a bit. Also, he isn’t particularly powerful, and all of his attack skills are single-target only. His Mana Bursts do not deal damage, but instead they buff the party.

Raynie: Raynie is a spear user, but she has a variety of elemental magic. The problem is, you have to decide whether you want Raynie to be a physical attacker or a magic-user because she can’t do both of them at the same time effectively. I found her Mana Bursts to be worthless, but that’s probably because she didn’t have a high MAG stat when I used her (she was a physical fighter for me). Definitely use her if you like inflicting poison.

Rosch: Rosch is the tank in this game. He has very high HP and DEF at early levels, which means he will hardly die. Several of his attacks can debuff the enemy, though I find that debuff skills in general aren’t as good as they could be. Being a tank, Rosch is the slowest fighter in the game, and usually has to take his turn after both your other characters and the enemy have taken their turns. I prefer his Lv 2. MB over his Lv. 3 simply because of three things: 1) it knocks the enemy into the air, allowing others to slam them to the ground; 2) it targets multiple enemies; 3) If successful, it debuffs their DEF.

C
Eruca: Eruca’s actually quite strong with her magic skills. She has the best resurrection magic in the game, but not much else in the way of healing magic. A major problem with Eruca is her dependency on MP do deal damage, since her physical power leaves a lot to be desired. Even when the enemy has low HP, you still want to use her Mana Shot to make sure the enemy actually dies. Why are guns in RPGs always so weak compared to swords? The upside to her magic attacks is that they’re non-elemental, making them usuable in any situation.

Funny to see how we differ on Eruca and Gafka mostly. I found Gafka’s low Magic Defense and his poor damage against high defense targets to be a liability at times, while Eruca just completely started blowing everything up when I started to level her (Plus she is your best bet against Master.)

If I recall correctly from last I saw them, Windjammer tiers were in this order:

Germany
Korea
Japan
Spain
Italy
U.S.A.

I’m sure Germany and US are correct, but not sure about the rest.

[Bious]

So… Anyone want to try making a tier list of Webcomics?

[petran79]

So… Anyone want to try making a tier list of Webcomics?

SSS tier but you need to have weird sense of humour

Welcome to the Perry Bible Fellowship

[Dracula_X]

For Dragons Crown I rank amazon and wizard highest because dps. They absolutely melt bosses with the right skills equipped.

[Bious]

So… Anyone want to try making a tier list of Webcomics?

SSS tier but you need to have weird sense of humour

http://www.pbfcomics.com/

That’s one of the better ones indeed. Best comic I’ve probably read is Achewood. The 2004-2007 years are probably the best in webcomic history and would be at the top of any list.