So you brought up popularity for no reason and continue to allude to an unspecified majority of people who dislike the remix? And you wonder why I find your argument invalid?
Which isn’t what you linked.
Which is also a shortened remix…
Because you made the “ridiculous” comparison yourself:
I’m guessing you meant to compare the MVC3 theme with this remix: [media=youtube]5xtLR4hUv2c"[/media]
It’s the same singer singing in the same “tone”. What you meant to say was the mixing was better on the vocals, because the vocals and intonation are exactly the same. The distortion on the DMC3 vocals wouldn’t work with the smoother, less syncopated paced remix so they went with a more threadbare mix that gives a more consistent pace. If a more distorted mix is your preference fine, but by no means is your individual palette the main criteria of the theme’s quality.
If you think that making the assertion that the DMC3 mix had “better vocals” and supporting that statement with no justification at all is a valid argument then God help you. The post I responded to gave no reason as to the ‘why’ the vocals were ‘better’, it merely asserted it was so.
I do disagree, but you seem incapable of respecting the fact your aesthetics are not universal.
Are you even trying anymore? I mean, should I even bother responding? You clearly still just don’t get it.
Alright, i’ll try this one more time. First off, I never alluded to people disliking the remix as a majority. I’m just saying that I know for a fact that it’s more than just a handful of people. I brought it up because harping on about something being someone’s opinion (when that fact is already blatantly obvious) is usually alluding to the sentiment that only that person, or a select few associated with that person, share that opinion.
This isn’t the case.
What isn’t? The shortened version of Smooth Criminal that clearly said “Radio Edit”? Or the hypothetical edit of Devils Never Cry that hasn’t been made yet, and therefore would not be able to be linked to? Seriously, what are you talking about? I said they could have used the original song without remixing it and it would have sounded better. Not that they could have used the original song verbatim.
Point being that the song can easily work as the backdrop for a fight… as they’ve did it already, and by cutting things from the original, not adding things, or changing the musical idea. You said that they were “doing different things” and thus could not be compared. Not only is it illogical to assume that they can’t be compared for that reason, there’s also no reason to believe that the original Devils Never Cry track couldn’t be used as a FG theme. As something similar has already been done without much alteration to the track.
No, you clearly don’t understand what’s been posted at all. Read instead of guessing. I compared the MvC3 theme with Devils Never Cry. I found Devils Never Cry better, and wish that they simply edited the original track instead of remixing it the way they did. Seriously, it’s not rocket science.
And I didn’t say that it was. What part of “The vocals are better” is an opinion, don’t you understand? The distortion effect that was added on the original Devils Never Cry theme (likely a distorted vocal track inlaid on top of the normal vocal track) gave it a more guttural quality that I personally preferred. Hence, I say that the vocals are better in the DMC3 version.
Of course, I’m referring to the vocals I’m actually listening to in the final mixdown, not the recorded vocals on the master track. If the latter is what you’re referring to as being a direct rip, you may be right. If you need to specify that it’s the mixing of the vocals that makes them sound different, not the recorded track itself, then sure, whatever. Since I don’t have the master track in front of me, it’s just splitting hairs to me, and it doesn’t change my point at all. They sound different, I like the DMC3’s rendition of it better. Valid opinion.
An assertion which is an opinion (not an argument), and is valid, as the vocals do sound different, which is all that is required for one to prefer one over the other. The only way my opinion would be invalid is if the vocals in both versions were exactly the same. Which they aren’t, even before you factor in the echo effects that they added, or the different sequence in which the track was cut.
Howso? My preferences are certainly opinion, but I have my reasons, based on observations about the song that are clearly facts. Just because my opinion is justified doesn’t mean that I’m trying to dictate my opinion as fact, or impose my opinion upon anyone else. I respect the fact that there are those that don’t agree, but I don’t respect when people try to argue me down armed with nothing more than the fact that I’m stating my opinion, as if they weren’t stating the obvious.
That said, are we done here? Because at this point there shouldn’t be any part of this you don’t understand. As such you should realize by now that there’s nothing to argue about, and you’re just wasting your time trying. Agree or disagree and keep it moving, like you should have from the door, but back then you clearly didn’t get what was going on here.
Doesn’t really matter. When someone has to put up a front by beginning their response by questioning your intelligence and obstinately ignoring anything resembling your argument you know your done here. I’d just be repeating myself.
I know this is an [media=youtube]RxkG1qKzVvE"[/media] build (like E3 old), but I think Dante’s Wild Stomp (OTG gunfire) is done by hitting C during Stinger (6C). You can see Dante starting Stinger then immediatly cancels it into Wild Stomp.
But he said the move after Nevan… Which would be Point Blank… in DMC3 it’s the crazy combo followup to shotgun stinger… No idea how you execute it in MvC3 though.
That would be Fireworks, in which Dante spins his shotgun around him like a pair of nunchaku (awesome, I know). Not sure on the imput, but I’m guessing either 214C or Mash C after Reverb Shock/Jet Stream.
Not really… if you would’ve played DMC3 you would know that Devils Never Cry works well for Dante and even better in the context of that game, Capcom did a fantastic job of remixing it to work well for MvC3 and, in my opinion, does an even better job at defining Dante in this game.
I agree about the gameplay, however. Then again, who doesn’t…