been gone a min. and now i see spidey and storm in ur sig mr. xero lol
as i mentioned before, he was in winners all the way to that match against Clockwork and he finally finished at 17th place in a tourny of 1600 ppl (highest placing Spidey in UMVC3. Evil Rasshan made it in top 8 in Vanilla but he did also have Phoenix on that team) which is an amazing achievement. my other point was on his movement on XF lvl 3 Spidey which in my opinion was impressive due to the fact Spidey can be a little awkward at that speed and haven’t see other Spideys actually have anything for anchor lvl 3 XF.
looking at other “big name” Spidey players, we see that they most likely have characters of broken tier on their team, in some cases more than 1 and they achieve many/most wins due to those characters, so i personally find it a little harsh to discard this player that quickly with a “Lol” due to the “character usage” argument. (in this case his use of Vergil). popular high tier partners for Spidey being: Doom, Dorm, Wesker, Vergil, Dante, even Hawkeye to some extent. we have to remember that UMVC3 is a team based game, so in order to maximise your point characters abilities, we must have good assists to back him up. i myself have been playing Spidey/Doom since Vanilla for maximum damage combos (Missile-Web throw loop).
i do agree with that point that he was being destroyed at the FGTV house, but we also have to take note that he was facing regular “high placer” players and OGs like Yipes with a lot more experience. also the fact he came from a community that just recently just picked up UMVC3 and dont have players like Yipes (yet) should also be noted.
as i said before, im not dick riding M.S, but i was excited that he made it so far and has placed the highest so far with the character we all love on this part of the SRK forums. i do however want to see other players do better in the future if he cant keep it up in order for Spidey to evolve as a character.
as of now im not going to continue with this topic due to this Forum being dedicated to “Spidey Vids” and i pretty much have said what i needed to say.
He’s currently the best Spidey user until someone places with Spidey on the next major tourney.
This mamespider stuff is gas, MameSpider is a good player with a character that NOBODY expected
Nobody at Evo knew the spidey mu cause hes a low tier Character, How many people knew the Modok MU against Frusty, very little, and as a result lost?
Spiderman imo has 1 broken move, Spider bite, nothing should be invincible without a risk let alone a DP move, its busted, I’m preparing for the counter arguement for an Invincible DP been safe with several options after it’s blocked or a following overhead:)
The OH is a lovely touch I may say:/
Stop causing Havoc wherever you go Ben:p
Um… you don’t know what you are talking about. One, MameSpider is strong, that point is a given. Secondly, Spidey isn’t low tier. If anything he’s low A high B on a S, A+, A scaled tier list. Lastly, Spider bite comes after spider sting… and no spider sting is invincible. Meaning you are getting hit with shit for your own mistakes. Also Modok isn’t low either. He has damn solid keepaway and zoning control. Stop trying to take away from players if you don’t understand their characters to begin with.
idk how to argue against a Spidey player when Biased can possibly be a Factor not saying it is but possible, clearly I’ve mixed up the Spider bite thing with Sting, [Sting been the DP right?]
I’m not arguing the about the DP follow up, I don’t think I can get through it sanely, I’ve fought a decent Spidey player here in my country and It’s definetly raised my awareness of the characters strengths, but also the characters weaknesses.
Where are you getting these facts from?
“Spidey isn’t low tier”
The majority of lists I’ve seen Show spidey been Below average usually Low B[Yes even High B] even lower, lists can be highly unreliable for the most part
Noel Brown and FC’s are My examples, If you have any others please share.
In the majority’s eye [Maybe not after Evo] he IS considered low tier in comparison to the rest of the cast.
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2012/may/20/colccfilipino-champs-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-tier-list/
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2012/may/21/uvgnoel-browns-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-tier-list/
idk what your Idea of a tier list is mate so apologies for coming off like a prick but, Spidey doesn’t seem like a character thats got many good mu’s, I do believe every character in the game stands a chance defo but not as equally as the rest ofc.
Marvels really hard to break down in tiers as its a team based 3v3 fighter which allows you to choose assists to cover weaknesses.
You’re right about MODOK, I don’t understand too much about him
But, When did I say MODOK was “Low tier”?
I was talking about lack of MU knowledge against an underplayed character leading to some players defeat at Evo
Please read what I post before replying back
yeah spider sting (dp) and bite (followup) aren’t invincible, it’s not 100% safe but it is usually safe. does have a great hitbox.
nothing about him is truly broken, he has a lot of situational tools and some good matchups but no truly scary in-game tool. his most useful tool is his mobility which allows him to avoid other characters’ scary tools most of the time
Yo mad Mame Spider hate going on in here. That man’s spiderman is so good he just says fuck it dies and lets Vergil do the work as to not dirty his spiderhands.
Gotta save the webs for another day right?
mame spider is the 4th best spiderman in austin
First, pro players can be wrong too. It’s happened in the past, it happens in the present and it will happen in the future. We are all just people. At the same time you can’t say a character is low tier and then blame match up in-experience. Saying that is the same as saying you don’t know the character enough to properly place him on a tier listing, which is what most players do. His tools aren’t over the top powerful that he should be S or A+ but his tools are great enough to catch, escape, counter, and simply beat some of the stuff people have problems with, add that plus his mobility and the characters he can be paired up with and benefit from and you will see he’s anything but low, that’s why I said low A, like the very bottom of A, high B, which I guess would translate to mid tier. The game is still evolving and players who don’t care to play certain characters will always consider them low tier if they aren’t the most used character without properly exploring them.
After UFGT8 I talked with Jwong about various things. One of them was how spiderman was easily the most underated character in the game and how he is top 10-15. As much as I hate to admit it he’s a decent (good) character. Also lets be real Noel and F.champ don’t even know what half the cast can do. After their top 15 or so characters they really don’t know what they are talking about.
And I’m sure he listened with shock and awe at the discovery of a Spidey player boasting claims of the Web head himself been a possible top 10 of characters, cause people that play underated characters haven’t been doing this forever
Good character he is indeed, 10 -15? that sounds overzealous to me.
This circus act character is defo possible top 10 - 15
Your right, top Marvel players haven’t a breeze what there on about,
Can you blame for not knowing more then 15 off the top of their heads?
What would be the point in knowing loads about characters like e.g Thor or GhostRider?
Wanna see how far Spiderman’s potential goes.
Jwong has even talked about how good Spidey is so much so that he plays him and has asked a few questions here and there. You may think you know a character, but it’s clear you don’t. Instead of going off of people’s early, opinionated, tier list learn something about the characters in the game. You don’t go to any tournament let alone a world’s tournament and get 2nd or 17th simply because the entire tournament attendees didn’t know matchups. The reason you learn about those characters so you know how to handle them. You’re underrating a character because you heard he’s low tier yet got blown up by a high priority move that has an overhead for a followup and can be made safe or more aggressive. If you want to see the potential of him and the rest of the cast stop paying attention to tier listings and get into some character forums, or watch videos to see what the characters can do against the top shit.
Actually he agree’d with me. I didn’t even boast about how good of a character he is considering he is one of the worst characters in the game and I’m just that damn good. Then again I’m sure you know more about the top players/top level play then I do considering I’ve only been to a few tournaments and you’ve probably watched your fair share of streams.
agree’d
I never mentioned once getting “blown up” by spideys DP, I agrued that it was too good, like I’ve mentioned before I have a copious amount of Spidey experience, If I can’t get through the thick skulls of you and bright that my opinion of the character is positive with of course some faults then idk what to say.
I may or may not be underating him but it’s not through hearing about it, it’s an opinion based from some experience against the character himself
I’ve said the characters GOOD loads, just he has lots of bad mu’s is all.
“He is considering He is one of the worst characters in the game”
You must either be lazy or just a child to throw this false crap around, why are you fabricating such exaggerations of what was actually said?
Never once did I say he was the worst
If you’re gonna quote me or paraphase what I’ve said at least make sure it’s something actually truthful you eejit.
“Then again I’m sure you know more about the top players/top level play then I do considering I’ve only been to a few tournaments and you’ve probably watched your fair share of streams”
You’re talking she, utter she, I’m not wasting my time with you, Your assumptions say more then enough.
Just stop. You’re contradicting yourself the more you go on. First you came out saying he had one broken move that you thought had invincibility, for you to think that you must be getting hit with it… A LOT. If not you would think otherwise. Second, you’re now calling him good but was arguing about him being low tier. The two don’t go hand in hand. Lastly what are all these bad matchups you refer to? His size, mobility, team dynamics, damage output, and overall effectiveness puts him on par or better with some matchups from the top and a clear cut above the lower cast who don’t have tools to reach him or touch him from afar. Pick a side and stick with it man your copious amounts of experience is not showing very well right now.
whoah whoah whoah hold on a second… what is sh**e?
shoe? wait. that can’t be right.
Its shake. stop talking shake man.