There is no "lame", only zoning: The keep-away thread

Ah, the classic. “You like winning video games! You must be a loser, ha ha, go get a life loser. Ha ha, it’s just a video game.”

Winning is fun. How fun it is depends on how much of a priority you put on winning. You really have no right to mock others for enjoying winning more than you just because they take a certain activity (not just video games) more seriously.

Because someone had to do it.

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

Except that argument is way too black and white. It assumes that either you “play to win at all costs”, only play “the cheap stuff” and are out to go win Evo, or you’re a scrub that just whines and mashes buttons all day. Either you’re a pro or a whiny scrub. When in reality, there’s this third group called “casuals.”

For example, I like to play with strategy, learn some combos, and I generally try to be a competent player, and I don’t complain about people who do pick top tiers, play to win, etc. On the other hand, I like to play my favorite characters instead of “just picking a top tier” myself, I don’t have any drive to go win tournaments, and I just like to play as a fun hobby.

Does that make me a scrub? No, it doesn’t, that makes me a casual. Because a scrub isn’t “someone who doesn’t play to win.” A scrub is someone who complains and whines about other people’s characters/playstyle/motivation/etc, instead of learning to fight it and letting people play how they want. Casual players and scrubs are not the same thing.

That “guide” is flawed, and people seriously need to stop quoting it.

Are we talking about watching, or playing? Seems like a hardcore Real Lifer like yourself would be able to tell the difference.

There are many things that I enjoy doing that I wouldn’t watch for anything in the world. I don’t care if it’s boring to watch zoning.

I have no idea what this has to do with zoning. Please do explain.

You speak as if “destroying a noob” with High Skill Rushdown is miraculously entertaining and fun. Any match against any dramatically inferior opponent is going to be boring and stupid. How does this somehow mean that Zoning Is Bad?

…said the guy on the internet forum dedicated to video game strategy.

<p>this may be old but i think i wanna chime in.  playing to win is awesome in ranked or tourneys etc etc.   but in lobbies or casuals i’ll use my “real” team maybe at first…  but if I find that the skill barrier is too wide i’ll switch the team up or ask the other player is wanting some advice or something.  Play to win is great.  but i don’t feel it’s needed to destroy ppl who aren’t on the same level as myself.  if they ask for advice and such great i’ll be happy to offer.  I’ll even tell them how to stop the tactic i’m doing.  isn’t it better for everyone if people get better at the game?  now if the person just whines and cries and doesn’t accept any help…  then I’ll probably still switch teams…  (i have a few that are good) and beat them anyway…  basically what i’m saying is that’s it’s all in context.  If you’re the type that just goes all out no matter what then that’s fine…  I just don’t agree with it cuz I’m not getting any better beating up on ppl that don’t know the game…  i’d much rather help them out.   If i’m in a lobby of good players and a unskilled player joins.  I offer them to hit me up later if they want training but this lobby might not be for them.  (hard to help someone with a bunch of others in there).  Just my random thoughts </p><p>xbox gt  jy0</p>