If your using meter with that team your doing it wrong. Just play Zero/Doom/Phoenix if you want an actually zero phoenix team. I would bet money I would blow you up if you played that team against me.
So, my original team is Zero/Dante/Doom or Ammy, but I suck (still can’t lightning loop or do a full Dante BnB), so I’ve been messing around with other characters. Right now I’m using Thor/Chris, but not sure who to tie it up with. I’ve been considering Zero since he’s my main character, and because I like the DHC potential going from Thor. So I have several questions related to all this:
- With Zero/Dante, who is better to have on point?
- With Zero/Dante/Doom, Missles or Plasma assist?
- What specifically would I press to combo from Thor’s Mighty Punish/air Mighty Tornado -> Sougenmu (it looks like I could viably do so after DHCing from both supers, but like I said- I suck)?
- Would Thor/Zero/Chris work solidly as a team? Do Thor/Zero (and while I’m at it, Thor/Chris) themselves even sound viable together?
The team is honestly amazing against people who don’t know the deal, it was my first serious Ultimate team. It has major flaws though. I stopped playing it when people realized there was no need to snap in phoenix and give Zero a second life due to all the anti phoenix tech available being actually more reliable than wasting a bar on snap setups. Also, if you get hit first and Zero dies, since Dante can’t avoid entry mixups as well as before(r.i.p hammer), if you get hit again, you’re looking at phoenix with 3 bars in a shitty situation. Not to mention you only have one neutral game assist.
I think I need a cheaper team, something like Viper/Zero/Dante. I don’t like zero with one assist though and… running zero first wont help him cuz viper assists are ass
edit: ooooooooooooooo i think rocket raccoon is that CHEAP SHIT im looking for
edit2: you know what i’ll just stop being lazy and use jam session more for the trish matchup… its only one i have trouble with lol. gonna run viper/zero/dante and zero/dante/hawkeye to see whats more cheap. inb4endupgoingbacktozerovergildante
First let me say that I know nothing about Thor. Nothing. With that being said:
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[]For Zero/Dante, put Zero on point.
[]For Zero/Dante/Doom, that’s really up to you as both are great. I’d default to Plasma Beam due to you already having vertical coverage with Jam Session. PB also does a great job of clearing the field of projectiles and other assists to allow Zero to move even more freely.
[]No clue about Mighty Punish/Mighty Tornado
[]No clue about that either, however I would not put Chris on anchor, though I suppose he’s a threat with XF3 and his awesome chipping. I don’t expect him to make any 1v3 comebacks though.
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The so much cheap stuff with Zero/RR. I tried it a while ago and loved it. :tup:
yeah man its sweet, he’s not really my style of zoner though so im gonna stick with hawkeye. so far i feel like the team works better than with vergil.
So Im back onto the team building stage, Ive been play testing a lot and I think Ive come up with a team that I like.
Zero (ryujin)/Doom (HM)/Maggie(Disrupt) Its a balance between zoning and rush down. Basically if I can Run away safely and zone you till I get you in a position were I can put on offense. Depending on the matchup I either will be in the air like crazy shooting lightning backed up by missiles, or ground game SOUGENMU projectiles backed up by assist depending on how my opponent approaches me. Basically Zero is backed up by 2 of the best assist in the game in terms of offense and defense. Zero can DHC into Doom easily also and Doom with A sougenmu SRK assist and Maggie Beam makes Doom an amazing zoner/rushdown also. If Zero/doom dies Im left with anchor maggie which isnt to bad because he moves like MVC2 maggie psuedo style lol. I do swtich Mag to strider anchor ( vajra ) and doom to beam assist with certian match ups.
TEAM PROS
Able to adapt to almost any situation
Most teams wont be able to touch me
AMAZING snap in mix ups
If I touch a character Good chance they are dead
ZERO gets backed up by TWO cape wearing bad asses
TEAM CONS
Characters that fuck me up…
Dr Strange, Vajra Assist, Hawkeye, and Dormammu. Basically Anti Zoner Zoners are the Reason that I go to Doom Beam/Strider Vajra as a back up.
Zero vs Zero mirror match leads into the most exciting fun and challenging match ups depending on the other zeros assist. Short story I played this team against a zero/viper/magneto and it was a crazy battle of air and ground game.
If I fuck Up once I lose TBH
Thoughts? Just a quick write up.
I used to play this team. It’s really good but its only real problems are:
-Fighting Hawkeye
-No true teleport (see “Fighting Hawkeye”)
-No good assist-punishing super like a beam super
-Having Doom snapped to the 3rd position and Magneto getting killed and being left with XF Doom suuuuuuucks
Otherwise it’s very good.
Found an amazing team. Zero/Spencer/Akuma. Akuma’s tatsu allows Spencer to keep wire grapple pressure on the opponent until he gets a hit, and tatsu is already fantastic for zero. Would have used Dante as anchor, but jam session isn’t as good with spencer as tatsu.
I am back on the team building stage and what i really want is Zero on Point and Wesker Anchor
Zero/???/Wesker
What do you guys think would be the best 2nd character?
Forgive me if i’m assuming too much but, if you’re running Wesker anchor I gotta assume your Zero is fraudulent, so I recommend Vergil for easy DHC ToDs and that extra bit of fraudulence, even makes Vergils combos much easier.
Yeah i just started Playing Zero about 2 days ago and almost have the lightning loop down, so basically i used to run in vanilla (Insert random zoning char)/Sent/Wesker in Vanilla and just got on UMVC3 about 2 weeks ago (Dont ask lol) so trying to “catch up” with everyone else basically and just wanted some ideas.
I like vergil but forgive me if im wrong doesnt zero AND vergil both have lower than average health? I was thinking Zero/Dante/Wesker and basically playing the Zero/Dante duo and using wesker as an assurance card… idk
Health doesn’t matter in this game as far as Zero teams are concerned.
Yeah i understand, i just want to move away from the whole, (Deal as much damage with my first two and ALWAYS kill the whole other team with lvl3 xfactor wesker, i’d like to run Zero/Dante/Strider but i can’t learn 3 “Brand New” (To me) characters and still keep up at the level my local friends are at with their current teams,
Assume Zero and Wesker are both Viable characters for me (Meaning they are both played on the same high level play)
Who would be the best 2nd char? Any others besides Vergil?
Zero/>>>/Wesker
Doom IMO.
I hear Zero/Ryu/Wesker is pretty awesome. Rekkoha xx Denjin Mode - Hado Shoryuken for good laughs.
Meh, they don’t really go together on a team, Tatsu isn’t a good enough assist for Zero to take advantage of like he does Akuma’s Tatsu. Nor does it allow for lots of mixups like Spencer’s angled wire grapple.
lol thanh getting shut down =p
Ryu forever staying low tier.
So basically where I am right now with my team is Zero is def on point and I have been trying out strider and hes almost too good to be honest, What do you guys think about a Zero/Wesker/Strider?
Strider assist used to harass opponents, Zero and Wesker both have no real problems getting in close to opponents, so i was thinking wesker with a decent strider assist would only make the shenanigans harder to deal with.
OR Should i just conform to society and go with the usual Zero/Vergil/Strider or Zero/Dante/Strider team?
Mind you that i always use Ryuenjin assist with Zero for the easy cross counter>shadow>lightning loop.
If i did run Zero(Ryuenjin)/Wesker(???)/Strider(Vajra) What do you think would be the most “Helpful” assist wesker could bring to the table for Zero since he already has a decent OTG?
Zero/Dante
Zero/Strider
Zero/Doom
Is conforming to society, so your team of Zero/Wesker/Strider is doing pretty much just that. I’d like it if it wasn’t for the fact Wesker’s assists are nowhere near decent enough for Zero for you to warrant using that combination of team.
What I mean is, without vajra- you’re playing solo Zero since you don’t have a neutral assist. People WILL learn to off Vajra and especially in that team where it’s the only assist you’ll really be using to get in or apply pressure? It’s BGs. Wesker/Strider is stupid good though but you want Zero so I dunno what to say.
Try it out- see if it’s super effective (for Zero) or not. And take it from there.