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Just tonight. His promo was lame.

Really? I don’t think so. I know WM is usually when all the heels drop their titles but The Miz is too awesome right now. Why give Cena the title?

Only way I would think he’d get it before, was if The Rock pulled a swerve and hit The Miz and sided with Cena. But that doesn’t seem too likely right now. Cena has to turn heel. What other option is there vs The Rock?

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Fuck you Cena.

Yeah, but short of the Rock screwing him, there’s no way it’d be believable for the Miz to get over Cena CLEAN. I mean, I’d book the Miz to retain, but I’d book the Rock to screw Cena to help Miz retain, thus setting up Cena/Rock at a future PPV. Other than that, I really can’t buy the Miz getting over clean all of a sudden.

Considering the fact everything Cena’s been through the last several months, and I doubt two heel’s will leave Wrestlemania Champion. Del Rio is definitely going over Edge.

I can’t believe the NFL booked the Jets over the Patriots.

I can’t believe the UFC booked Serra over GSP.

I can’t believe Strikeforce booked Werdum over Fedor.

That’s kind of how sports work. Sure WWE isn’t a sport, and the matches are usually insanely predictable, but that’s exactly WHY WWE has sucked so much. That’s HOW you build stars: you have them go clean over your established stars.

That’s how Paul Heyman beat WWF’s ass without near the financial resources, and forced WWE to change.

Most sports fans are pretty stupid. They go on and on about how it’s impossible for one team to win or one athlete to win, then that athlete/team wins and all of a sudden everyone is sucking their dicks and acting like they knew all along.

That’s why you always book your new stars to win clean over your old guys. That’s why Rock lost so many matches clean too. That’s why Cena and HHH suck so much and destroyed business.

When doesn’t Miz deliver a good promo?

The thing is, the WWE booked themselves into a corner from the start of Miz’s title reign. Hell, the whole thing with the King DESTROYED his credibility. I do agree, the way you get guys credibility, you have them go over clean over established stars. What I’m saying is, if the WWE had ANY intention of doing that on this title reign, they would’ve done it MONTHS ago. It makes no sense for Miz to go over clean IN THIS PARTICULAR MATCH. With the Rock looming, SOMEONE’S going over Dirty. Only way the Miz comes out smelling like Roses is if Cena actually goes heel.

Also, ever since WM19 (aka, the first Mania with 2 World Title Matches), not ONCE have BOTH matches walked out with a heel champ. That just doesn’t happen.

19: Brock wins
20: Both Faces win
21: Both Faces win
22: Both Faces win
23: …all participants were Faces anyway
24: Taker Wins
25: Both Faces win
26: Cena wins

Often because he usually ends up repeating himself way too much in a promo thus making it go on longer than it should. Plus, his serious promos aren’t exactly great. He’s only really good mocking people, like tonight.

So what? Until a few years ago, no 6th seed ever won the SB.

Miz has the longest WWE Title reign in the past 2 years. Why take the title off of him now? If they wanted to do that, they could have done it months ago. Could have had Cena-Orton at WM for the title.

Neither title match is going to be the main event, so they can have both heels go over. The main event is going to be UT-HHH, I’m almost sure of it.

I also remember Rock chasing HHH an entire year and then…HHH the heel winning at WM. Heels usually don’t win at WM but they make exceptions when it makes sense…or maybe if it’s HHH. You’re probably right, but the correct booking decision is Miz to retain clean.

Alright, do you want to put a bet on this since you’re SO sure Miz is going to win?

Why would I bet on wrestling? You are trying to prove a negative, which is impossible. I’m only posting that the correct move is for Miz to retain clean, and if the WWE wants to it can do that (it is predetermined, but even if it wasn’t, I showed you examples of REAL sports where this type of thing happens). I expect the WWE to do what I posted several pages back: have Rock pretend that he is going to take out Cena but then actually screw over Miz and do the very gay and lame pass the torch thing with Cena.

It’s going to be retarded. It’s going to make me stop watching WWE again. It may even get me to watch TNA because TNA can’t do any worse, or at least that’s what I’ll tell myself until I watch TNA for 2 weeks and they do. But that is the odds on favorite for what will happen.

And I’m telling you, it’s the stupidest possible thing to do.

Then just stop watching now. Why even waste your time?

Miz SHOULDN’T go over clean, at least not on this title run. He needs to lose the title, and work his way to true contendership, so he can have a nice, healthy run in the future. Have him suddenly go over, and we have another Sheamus, and look how he’s doing right now. But seriously, stop pretending people care if you stop watching wrestling. If I don’t care that my own brother stopped, why the hell would I care about your opinion on watching it or not? It’s your time. If it’s stressing you this much, you shouldn’t watch in the first place.

Cry more.

Miz shouldn’t win because he’s a heel going against Cena on the biggest ppv of the year, it’s not about true contendership or anything that’s just how it is. If he wins then it’s an upset and it won’t be the main event it will be in the uppercard so the fans can go home happy.

You are the one whining here buddy, so much drama over Wrestlemania right now.

I don’t want to see Cena win, but he has the kiddy fanbase, face “appeal” and the biggest event of the year on his side right now.

How am I the one crying? You’re the one that’s going to quit wrestling again if Miz loses, which he will.

lets not turn this into wrestle zone forums now. You guys are arguing over a fixed event.

At the end of the day, it’s a business. Booking The Miz over Cena clean at Wrestlemania, means your banking on The Miz as the next big star in WWE?not a flash in the pants, not building a star, but a star ready to help carry the company.

Is he ready for this? ? I don’t know. More importantly, does WWE thinks he’s ready? It’s a gamble.

The Miz has time to become a huge star, but I don’t think 'Mania is going to be his night. All and all, The Miz is a great position main eventing Wrestlemania with the biggest star in the industry. If that’s not giving an opportunity to build a star, I don’t know what is.

Cena is going to win, you are only kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Yeah, it’s like people expect Miz to drop off the map if he loses the strap? Hell no. As long as he looks like gold losing the title he’ll still be in a better standing than before. I mean, he’s in a World Title Match, At Mania, against Cena the Company’s Most Prized Investment, WITH the Rock looming over it all? I mean that’s just huge.

wrestling is FIXED? U mean, they determine the outcome before hand?

cena will win, because ADR will win. one will balance out the other.