The Wrestling Thread 2015 - IN THE BOOKS! PLEASE LOCK THREAD MODS!

Yes I know.

@Blackartsviper I’d love for a Punk/JR iPPV team.

New Japan was going to do their 1/4 show with english commentary

I would back jr/punk, but only heel punk

Punk is always a heel, even when he’s a face.

I laughed at that too. You bring that chant to a shitty Smackdown match, or some Bella crap. Not a main event like that on NXT.

As much as I did enjoy how organic Nevilles heel turn was throughout the match (jumping in the ring to hold breezes arm so he couldn’t tap was fucking brilliant) along with Neville and Sami’s exchange when the Ref got pulled I still enjoyed Bayley vs. charolette more.

I like this…which means somehow someone (Dunn) is going to ruin this.

Tyler Breeze doesn’t need to be a stooge in some entourage.

I enjoyed the 3 Canadians and a Brit Fatal Four Way.

We need a new Hart Foundation, that isn’t composed of Harts. Run by Jericho.

the storytelling was all in neville’s face when sami stared at him after he pulled the ref out. it was as if when sami asked him why his face said “i had to…i had to do w.e to survive…this belt is my everything”

it was beautiful.

Remember when everyone was salty about Sami not being able to be Generico? None of this magic would have happened.

Breeze is going to get turned into another Janett-er, Morrison.

I’ll refrain from any crappy fantasy booking, although I admit the temptation is there.

trips clearly saw something we couldnt at the time. he knew how he could tell stories facially, since we as fans have never see him wrestle without his mask. i dont blame them for being so ignorant.

Miz’s entourage needs to be complete losers. Mojo Rawley and Alex Riley joining the entourage would be more sensible.

I love how on nxt the divas are treated as can’t miss. That’s seriously the besT use of them. No lesbian or whorishness. No stupidly long promos. Just good matches and short/simple/real promos.

The mask forced genericao to sell with his eyes and body language. Without it he reminds me of Kane. In terms of getting things over through movement and expression Kane is a master. Selling a match post match without being hokey? You can’t teach that.

NXT is so good i kind of don’t want key parts of the roster called up

their giving miz breeze cause he needs that fan rub. this is the more visual version of cena giving new popular guys his verbal approval in promos.

Keep Breeze away from Miz. He doesn’t need that stink on his main roster debut.

Plus it would not fit. Tyler Breeze has a similar gimmick, but is way better.

Miz would be Hardcore title level in attitude era.

He needs losers around him to make him feel better. Sandow as a stunt double. Mojo as his hype man. Who overreacts to miz’s promos. And alex riley as miz’ drama.

tylers gimmick made more sense when you had joey mercury and morrison.

I’m not planning on doing straight reviews either. I’m also planning on doing commentary about the history in-between. Hell I had already had one paragraph in my mind talking about Starrcade 1989.

[details=Spoiler]Road Warriors;

The Road Warriors winning of this tournament was a fitting microcosm of the Road Warriors booking back in 1989. Which means fuck all of you other tag teams who are holding the gold we are more important, and selling more tickets so we are going to be at the top of the card. People talk shit about Cena and how the WWE makes the title mean less because he is always pushed in the main event, or Hogan taking the spotlight away from Savage during the Mega Powers era when he held it for an entire year, but the Road Warriors were every bit as guilty of this crime than any other act in the history of professional wrestling.

LOD were champions until only April, but in recollection before re-watching the entire WCW catalog I was certain they were champions throughout the entire year and the Steiners only won the Gold back in 91. That was because even after losing the gold to the Varsity Club their conflicts were more prominent than the struggle for the damn tag titles. Think about this for a moment? Great American Bash is one of the top 5 greatest North American PPVs in my opinion (along with Wrestlemania 17, No Way Out 2001, Canadian Stampede, and Money in the Bank 2011) and the tag belts weren’t even defended. That was because the Freebirds were booked into that underrated War Games match with the Road Warriors, and Hawk and Animal were marketed as the main attraction of the match.

Halloween Havoc '89? Freebirds world tag title match with the Dynamic Dudes was midcard, but the Road Warriors tag match with the Skyscrapers with nothing on the line (not even the US tag belts) was the semi-main event. In fact the rivalry between the Skyscrapers was the main tag feud going on throughout the fall and winter of that year. Again, they had reached that mythical plateau of being bigger than the titles. Of course that meant that the championship was made less important.

The Varsity Club and Freebirds had totally unmemorable short title reigns in that time period that nobody cares to remember, but LOD’s pre-eminence in the tag division really ended up hurting the push of the Steiners. Even after they were getting over and were being prepped to win the belts in November of that year they were often teamed up as friends in storyline with Hawk and Animal and their presence flat out diminished the Steiners motherfuckin’ vibe. It didn’t kill it, but it was just like when Randy Savage was champ back in 88 and was often teamed with Hogan…it ended up hogging the spotlight from them and just like with Savage it didn’t go unnoticed by the Steiners (Scott still this day doesn’t speak highly of the LOD because of that). Hell the Steiners were forced to come out and fuckin congratulate Hawk and Animal for winning the tournament they lost, and they were the God Damn tag team champions! Looking back Starrcade was the pinnacle of LOD’s careers and literally it would be all downhill from this point forward. [/details]

On Sting not winning the title at Starrcade 89

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It’s been said thousands of times before but I will say it again. One of the main reasons why Starrcade 89 is so maligned isn’t just because it was a huge let down from the great shows they put on throughout that entire year. Sure it was their biggest show by a wide margin and it was a failure mostly because both the tag team and singles Iron Man tournament were poorly executed. But the biggest issue that most fans have is this: Sting should have won the crown right then and there.

They had presented Sting as the eventual champion since, I don’t know, Clash of the Champion 1.

That was 18 months earlier.

By December of that year fans wanted him to win the title, and I was one of them damnit! Seriously I was confused as Hell watching this shit in my mom’s room at five years old with my brother and I cheered thinking that he won the belt and my brother was the first one to stop me from cheering saying that he didn’t win the championship only this tournament. Then he had to slowly explain what the Hell was a round robin tournament because I couldn’t understand it. Seriously I was so pissed off because at that moment I thought Sting was the WCW Heavyweight champ. Looking back at it I’m still pissed because it was just horrible, horrible booking. One of the most underrated worst booking decisions in history.

They spent all year building him up only for him to go over Flair in some meaningless lame ass tournament and only to have him put in a title match at Wrestlewar? Wouldn’t that have made more sense had he won it at the biggest show? Come on man! What bullshit!

This was made even worse by what happened at the very next Clash and Sting destroying his knee and once again delaying his coronation until the Bash. This lead to a chain reaction of just unwatchable WCW TV outside of those two matches Flair had with Luger because everything was at a holding pattern until Sting came back. Seriously Flair vs Junkyard Dog? In 1990? No wonder business went into the toilet that year.

Some thought that Sting should have won the title as early as Chi-Town Rumble (like Scott Keith). This is nonsense in my book. Outside of the fact that they had three of the greatest matches ever, Steamboat deserved the lifetime achievement award of holding Big Gold. The subsequent feud with Funk needed the belt for it to work and again we got two classic matches out of it. Plus this gave Sting a chance to further develop. But by fall of that year all of the other threats were vanquished and it was time for Sting to win it and it would have been more legitimate had he won it at their biggest show. This was like if DBryan didn’t win the title at this year’s 'Mania.

Sure this match was very good because it was Sting vs Flair and I agree with Meltzer’s 4.25 out 5 rating, but the horrible matches along with this modified Dusty Finish is one of the reasons why this was an awful PPV. [/details]

Plus I don’t necessarily agree with Orton and Bryan having great chemistry. They have good chemistry but for some reason their matches can’t hit that extra gear like the very best of Dragon’s best matches like with Nigel, Kenta, Punk or even with Rollins. But me and you are in total agreement that his best opponent was Nigel. Those two were just made for each other.

Reading the spoilers for the NXT taping as it’s coming in.
[spoiler=]Looks like Titus will be making NXT his new home[/spoiler]

Titus needs a lot of work, NXT will be good for him.

Called to the main roster way to early.