Heh, Stone Cold buried Tazz so hard he made him an announcer.
plus bray just won against jericho. why would we say bray is de-pushed or w/e when he just won against one of the wwe’s well established top stars.
I thought Nikki did pretty good with her promo.
Because he and his whole faction got in zero offense on a John Cena who got SUPLEXED 16 TIMES and yet somehow is able to make three people his bitches…
Jack Swagger is STILL selling his rib injury, meanwhile, Super Cena is AA’ing the entire Wyatt family with no trouble at all.
Jericho is willing to make anyone look good against him, Cena will only make you look worse against him, unless you’re blessed by the wrestling gods like Punk or Bryan.
So what if they’ve done it before and worse? How does that make it any less stupid?
Bray got his win back against Jericho and that was to help put him over and reestablish him as a threat because he had been seriously defanged since facing Cena.
Cena treating anyone like jobbers to sell he can beat a man he’s already beaten multiple times is stupid in and of itself.
It’s borderline retarded to do it to an up and coming star like Bray.
He could have beat up Kane or Orton or they could have done a Rocky training montage.
It’s Cena, he’s no-sold FIRE. It’s unnecessary.
i didnt say it wasnt stupid. that was never my argument, my argument is it doesnt kill him or push. i used those as examples to show that other people have been “destroyed” and survived. half of jericho’s career in wwe has been destroyed to top faces, he was very much like wyatt in some respects. he pushed through, became one of the most essential top stars to the wwe for years. Being destroyed by a match is far from the end.
Oh, it definitely hurts them.
This isn’t a one-off segment where they have Cena spread the stupid around to everyone, this was specifically feeding Bray Wyatt to him. They never refer back to Austin or Rock or whoever clowning the locker room.
But we both know the announcers are going to shove this moment down our throats for the next 4 weeks until the PPV.
The entire stable has been on a losing streak in their feuds for months now. Bray was just getting back momentum.
This is on the level of Sandow cashing in and losing to a one-armed Cena after a severe beat down.
To be fair, that Sandow burial was intentional. They used it to turn him into the comedy jobber he is now.
we’ll see how it plays out in the coming weeks. but i have faith…should be interesting to see who ends up being correct in this debate gentlemen.

To be fair, that Sandow burial was intentional. They used it to turn him into the comedy jobber he is now.
No, they didn’t.
They weakly tried to spin it with their stereotypical “______. is more dangerous than ever now” gimmick for like, a week and then he did nothing until he came out as Magneto.
Then he had the fake-shoot angle for a couple weeks and then he started doing the Stevie Richards stuff in June, I think.
It was around 7 months between his failed cash-in and his current gimmick.

we’ll see how it plays out in the coming weeks. but i have faith…should be interesting to see who ends up being correct in this debate gentlemen.
I hope it’s you.
LOL CENA WINS
On the topic of killing pushes I have no idea what the hell they’re doing with Cesaro, dude was absolutely on fire a few months ago but now it’s like they’re actively trying to kill his popularity.
- Worked extremely well as a member of the Real American’s with Zeb as his mouthpiece? Let’s have him leave Zeb to join Heyman who proceeds to do nothing of note with as he’s busy managing Brock.
- Extremely over as a face? Let’s turn him heel because reasons.
- People love the giant swing? Lets have him stop using it.
- Has one of the best themes in the roster, lets have Swagger keep it and proceed to give him by far the worst theme in the roster.
- He’s established himself as being able to easily stand with top carders, is possibly the most overall physically fit wrestler on the roster, is consistently one of the best performers and tends to put on fantastic matches? Let’s have him job to midcarders for no reason.
Seriously this is a guy that should’ve been in contention for the main title belt by now and instead he’s being treated like trash by creative, his only real issue is he’s not amazing on the mic but even then he’s still way better on it than a lot of other wrestlers and he does has his moments (he was the best part of the WWE 2K15 roster reveal panel) besides he could always get a manager to talk for him (one that’s actually able to support him this time).
Angered Cena is cool
I liked how the stfu looked good for the first time ever
Headlock looked nice
Those suplexes. Cena looking like taz.
I wish brodus was still in wwe.
Dust bros heel turn? Usos turning into cena clones
Cesaro’s weakness on the mic is only in front of the crowd for some reason, in any other situation he comes across as really charming. Scripted promos maybe?
Why they are not pushing Cesaro to the moon is beyond me. I’ve never seen a guy so obviously scream main eventer as Cesaro and just not get pushed. And whenever he starts to get over with something, they take it away from him. It’s really frustrating.
Cesaro’s about to be put in the same spot he was in 2012. Heel US Champ who has good matches.
Once Miz loses again to Ziggler. I want Ziggler/Rusev so Ziggler can die for our sins.
Rollins/Reigns is going to be awesome and a great way to showcase Roman as a powerhouse.
Wyatts have been jobbing to big show and mark henry for weeks.
Shit if wwe was nuts. They could run a heel stable with cena, show, and henry
Ryback taking time off. I bet he returns and beats Rusev for America. And he gets rebuilt into the most over guy in wwe again.
2012 Ryback vs 2014 Lesnar sounds like an awesome clash. Not to mention ryback hating heyman
The reason Cesaro isn’t getting pushed is because the main reason going on in the wwe. Change.
There are now literal “Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn Guys” and “HHH and Stephanie McMahon Guys” there are very few stars who are mutual to both parties (Cena, Orton, Reigns, Batisita, few others) and it’s cause a lot of clashing backstage.
Dunn hates anyone who has an accent and Vince has always been wishy on pushes to begin with. Vince sees Cesaro as a not a big deal and but sees potential while HHH has told Cesaro that he’s the future of the company when it comes to how matches are laid out.
Dunn absolutely HATES Bo Dallas because of his face (literally) but HHH and Steph love him because he is great at working a crowd and living a gimmick.
Vince thinks Paige is just pale and British with no real great features but Stephanie absolutely loves her and thinks she’s the next Lita or Trish Stratus because of how well she connects with audiences, especially young females.
HHH thinks Tyler Breeze and/or Dolph could be this generations Shawn michaels in terms of showmanship, selling and how to work a gimmick but Dunn hates both of them.
I could keep going.
The lines in the sands are drawn. It’s just a matter of time.
Vince and Dunn see everything in the Entertainment side, HHH and Steph see everything on the Wrestling Quality Side and giving a good show in wrestling terms. Because Hunter and Steph know that they are a Wrestling company, not a full blown up Music, Movie, Media conglomerate, they know their best thing is WRESTLING.
If Hunter and Steph take over WWE they would put down the movie division that is making them lose money, they would shift everything focus to wrestling, and make deals with cable about the WWE Network.