Lol. I never said why port a game when people in the arcade play it. I said why port a game that won’t get play here in arcade or at home. I didn’t actually mean you thought they wouldnt port BB. I was using that statement to counterpoint this post of yours:
GG and Tek have scenes here. Why wouldnt they “still port” them? And you bring up BB like they would have to think twice about porting a potential successor to GG and possibly the most beautiful 2D game ever created. THAT was what I was saying. Then you even state the fact that Melty is seeing even MORE play in arcades than VF5R like that’s a reason for VF5R port > Melty port. Wtf? You’d make a horrible defense lawyer. You’re just a walking contradiction, you haven’t made a single point where I read it and didn’t say “Duh” out loud, and your posts make my head hurt.
Honestly, a lot of people just don’t understand things. And while we don’t have an official statement from Sega, you’d have to be crazy, dumb, or ignorant to not have a general idea of why the likelihood of seeing a port is extremely thin. But yea, I was pretty much done with trying to convey a sensible explanation when I saw that the “09 IS YEAR OF THE FIGHTAAA” nonsense made it to this thread too. If 09 was year of the fighter you’d have all of these titles that you play online at home in your local arcade. Lmfao. “09 is year of the online fighter and full of console ports that didn’t even drop in 09” is more like it. Actually, that’s exactly what it is.
I like the idea of communicating with Sega in attempt to make VF5R port happen. That’s sensible. But wake me up when other people’s optimism and wishful thinking hasn’t corrupted their ability to reason. Like in this thread.
Melty has more players playing in the arcade. So, according to your logic, why would they need to release it in Japan (as a port)? More money is coming off of Melty in the arcade in comparison to VF5R, so they are better off from a financial standpoint. Every game in Japan sees play in arcades. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get a Japanese region port.
Everyone is playing Melty in the arcades. Guess they don’t need or shouldn’t release it in Japan as a port, because of course, it doesn’t make any sense because as you said “They dont need to release it in Japan either if nearly everyone is playing in the arcades”. VF5R has a scene in Japan, it will see a play as a Japanese release. They ported TvC and that game is even LESS popular than VF5R.
If anything, you make less sense than me.
I love when people take their own word as gospel and effectively fuck over any reasonable discussion that could have been had.
First, let me say this. If you had to speak on behalf of Virtua Fighter series in America, Sega would snatch Sonic the Hedgehog from us too.
Now that I’ve gotten that out of my system, don’t play dumb. I said it makes no sense from a business standpoint to port a game that gets mad play in Japan and relatively none over here. By that logic, you can’t counterpoint me by bringing up titles that get play or even MORE play in Japan yet ALSO get play HERE.
Some kind of U.S Scene(Whatever shit you brought up) vs Practically No U.S Scene(VF)
Get it?
If you still can’t comprehend and try to combat me with another argument I will forsake you and the rest of the North Americans…
You keep talking about North America this and North America that, but the funny thing I have never EVER discussed or mentioned the US scene (other than referencing the lack thereof). So, I don’t know what you’re going on about. Perhaps you should read each and every one of my posts CAREFULLY and come back to me.
So, sorry, you actually need some practice in reading comprehension.
So that means that Blazblue and KOFXII shouldn’t be ported as well. Right?
VF5 sold minimally 500,000 copies on the PS3 (at a time when the console had a tiny user base) and VF5 Online on the 360 became a platinum title so whatever sales figures qualify for it that, it got. And no the 200,000 of VF5 Online from VGChartz is NOT accurate so don’t quote that please.
So are you saying that Blazblue and KOFXII are going to minimally reach 750,000 sales per title? And they have the advantage of being multi-platform releases right from the get-go, far more marketing than VF5 had, and there are way more consoles out now than there were when VF5 came out, and it’s ‘the year of the fighter’ and those games are riding the SFIV hype hard.
VF5 did fine on consoles and so would VF5R. The only thing holding back a console release is Sega.
North American thing was a joke I made up. Probably a horrible one and I see that now. Besides that, wtf are you talking about now? I mentioned U.S. scene because those games you mentioned get play in BOTH regions as opposed to VF and the few people with 5 man tournaments trying to keep it alive. So porting them is a no brainer whereas porting VF5R isn’t such an easy decision if Sega wants to make, uh, profit. You know, by Sega being a company and all and that’s how companies stay afloat.
No offense, but talking to you makes me feel like I’m being Punk’d. What’s Ashton Kutcher’s user so I can neg rep him?
VirtuaFighterFour
Nice facts and figures yet you’re misssing the point entirely. Can’t speak for Sega but if I were Sega I’d say that 5th interation of VF series wasn’t successful enough in America to warrant me porting it over, especially if I’m feeling lazy. I don’t know why people with some sense of insight are letting me battle you two. But I give up, because I am getting my ass kicked by hopes and wishes.
I know I specifically posted a thread on Virtuafighter.com when it was released on the PS3 and then on the 360, IT did NOT sell 500,000 copies, at least not in the US, and that includes both releases (UNLESS, there were some late sales that I’m not aware of when I stopped checking. ) Now If you include World Wide sales, then sure it did, but 500,000 worldwide isn’t much anymore in this day and age.
Going back, the first month of release (well Feb 20 to Feb 28) it sold just 53,000 in the US for the PS3 release. That wasn’t good, that is’t good and that will never be good. The next month was even worse. I can go and dig up the 360 numbers but you must be talking about world wide release.
Like one member said, Sega is a business just like any other. When you can do minor changes, charge full Price, Call it a new Madden and sell 5 million then you do that year in and year out. When you can Keep selling Final Fantasies until now there are 14 and countless spin offs and re-releases and it still sells well, then you keep doing it again. Hell, When Sega sold 641,000 VF4, They were excited and it was a no brainer that their upgrade Evolution was also coming. Sega thought they may have finally broke the US market. Evo sold 261,000 and was descent for an “upgrade” but that game introduced 2 new characters, so people bought it. Sega must have thought to themselves, selling Virtua Fighter FT, with No new characters and just move tweaks, would probably sell Way less than a more massive EVO upgrade and would have further decreased to well below 100,000 and therefore, you then basically not make much money off of it and may have lost money. Of course here and on VF.com board, we loved final tuned, but we are unfortunately in the minority.
He’s talking about worldwide release. We want a port for consoles, I don’t know why you guys are so “USA-centric”. When I say consoles I say consoles, I don’t mean American version of console ports. The game hasn’t been ported in Japan either, has it? I would import it and give a big middle-finger to some of you if that was the case.
Also don’t mention sales figures of first month only. The game doesn’t sell for one month only. Valkyria Chronicles keeps being mentioned as having sold only 33k copies, despite having had huge spikes since January (up to 400% in April alone). Stop the obsession over the first month
VF got Sega the Best re-release on PS3 in Japan, which means over 500k sales I believe (don’t quote me on the numbers), and Platinum in USA and Japan on 360. It might not have broken records, but it did better than some of you are willing to believe.
And FlyMike, nobody with reason is backing you up because you aren’t reasonable yourself. And pretty annoying too with your whole “BUSINESS STANDPOINT” catchphrase.
PS3 is region free so a JPN VF5R would be snatched up by me quickly. But I don’t expect Sega to bring it to JPN console if peeps are already playing the shit out of it in arcades. Since arcade gaming in Japan > console gaming in Japan.
You don’t get jokes? I don’t care if no one posts to “back” me because peeps are reading this thread laughing, honestly probably not giving a fuck. Like the rest of the scene as a whole. So you and others who bump the thread without any info just to say, “I WANT NAO PLZ” is pretty annoying to me, since you want to talk about what’s pretty annoying. And also quoting sales figures (which are actually pretty pathetic in comparison) that you believe justifies a console port, just because you want the game, is also pretty annoying. Your catchphrase is what? “We’ve always had console ports therefore we’re supposed to have one this time too! No excuse! VF5 sold enough for them not to go bankrupt. Me want. Whine.”
Like I’ve been saying this logic is flawed or there wouldn’t be any Japanese region fighting console games at all. They even ported Death Smiles for the Xbox 360 and everyone plays that SHMUP in the arcades. Didn’t stop them.
VF5R is an isolated case. You keep making general blanket statements about the industry which don’t hold any weight. If Sega doesn’t port it, that’s their choice. Some your points are feasible, but don’t act like you know EXACTLY why they are not. You are not Sega.
Lol I didnt say I was AT ALL, going as far to say “if I was Sega” in many of my posts. This whole discussion is just theory and trying to make sense of things through logical reasoning.
But, now I agree with you because…er, because…man, my argument has ran it’s course and I just can’t continue discussing that which we dont know after I’ve already stressed and conveyed my view. It’s pointless. So, until an announcement is made, I guess more theory discussions is what’s going to keep the thread going. At least mine had weight, if only for the simple fact that my outcome is what it is now. No port. You all are all about what they “can do” and “what didnt stop them previously” and you don’t even have any kind of statement from Sega to warrant this type of blind optimism or assurance that my theory isnt possible in the slightest, despite the few actual hardcore players acknowledging this as a truth. That’s just how I feel.
I respect everyone’s opinion though. Keep hope alive, and stuff.
Tbh I’m not arguing that “SEGA should do this” if you read my posts carefully, I’m simply saying you are stupid and your points hold no weight, showing you counterpoints that break all your theories apart. I’m not saying SEGA will do it based on what I said, nor that they should, but I have more reason to believe that it CAN happen than not, based on actual facts. Can = a possibility. It’s possible to happen, but it’s also possible that VF5R never sees the daylight outside of Japanese Arcades. Nobody is denying that. Rather than simply listening to a sandy vagina telling me “It won’t happen, ever! I’m sure of it! Oh btw, BUSINESS STANDPOINT! JAPANESE ARCADES!”. You’re an idiot.
And lol @ you saying “the hardcore believe in you”. From what I see in VFDC (where me and VirtuaFighterFour are active members), that’s not the case at all. Hell, just look at the link deadfrog posted up there.
Well, whichever side you’re on, we’ll know sometime today won’t we.
However, my pessimism is telling me that the announcement is along the lines of: “We have no current plans to port VF5R to consoles”, and everyone will hinge on the word “current” and keep pestering them and hoping.
Dark Vincent
Rofl. I never said it couldn’t happen. Instead of just posting to say, “It can. Anything’s possible. With magic.” I just took the stance on theorizing why it maybe hasn’t happened YET and why it may not be such a “Duh” decision, like porting Tek over. That’s it. I also was simply saying that some VFDC, or other actual players I’ve conversed with acknowledge this as a POTENTIAL reason.
Instead of just comprehending this simple theory, you’re on some other type shit like thinking I’m anti-VF5R, when all I did was try to give a potential reason why it hasnt dropped or been announced THUS FAR. That makes me a sandy vagina though? Lol ok.
P.S. I’m not on any “side”. We all want the game. I’m just able to view possibilties of both sides of the issue. Why the hell is this thread so high-strung?
