The Valentine Thread: MEEEDIC!

[DaRabidDuckie]

Just discovered something interesting with Valentine: You can raw tag with Double mid-screen by cancelling a st.HP into tag while your opponent is under the effects of the green syringe. Testing with other characters now.

Here’s the combo I use with Valentine (green syringe already loaded): st.LP, st.MP, st.HP, QCF+LP, st.MK, st.HP, tag into Double, QCB+KK after 2nd hit of tag.

Again, only from mid-screen. Haven’t tried against all characters, but confirmed working vs Cerebella.

edit: just tried it with all characters, here’s what I found:
Midscreen: everyone but Peacock
Corner: Peacock (must be close), Cerebella.

So Cerebella is the only one who can raw tag from both midscreen and the corner.

edit: Here’s a video, so you guys know I’m not blowing smoke:

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[Fishy]

that’s why you mix up your approaches from super high and close to the ground but in air. short jump iad j.mp gets over 236 5HP pretty well too. most peacocks have a projectile pattern. it’s your job to recognize it quickly. the key is also to move when she’s shooting shit. when she’s not shooting shit, dont attack and you can most likely punish cooldown of teleport.

it’s also a game of patience.

i think the best time to approach peacock is after an item drop, due to the cooldown as she’s then restricted to bangx3 and toon assists, which you can react to and approach accordingly ie (close to the ground iads for bangx3 and super jumps, delayed air dashes and delayed double jumps for everything else.)

if you can get a running jump j.mp, it’ll carry you all the way from full screen while saving you an airdash and double jump.

eYO! nice input, don’t forget that Flatliner is invince on startup, it saves lives~

Understanding individual peacox is vital, imo :: you have your strictly-keepaways, your cheeky aerial spammers & then I don’t even know

Those aerial spammers can literally juss be dash-in’d on & fkn straight grabbed :: haha!
Haven’t messed with keepaways too much, but locking them down is important & never stand still or distance yourself :: most peas break up close. I find it crucial to analyze patterns & find holes :: a well-placed checkmate can get you in for some mixup game & once confirmed, usually means a dead CACK~

[GHNeko]

val v peacock is pretty easy.

the only time peacock becomes annoying is with double assist or napalm pillar, in which the game becomes less, “get in and rape peacock” but “rape assists before i get shot”

when you do enough damage and/or punish fullscreen calls consistantly, peacock will stop calling them out which is when you can approach and then snap in the assists to kill the red life.

and soemthing awesome i found.

j.HK can beat out double assist.

I did it earlier on ranked. If this can be done reliably, then val has a way to stop double assist spammers while staying off the ground.

[OmniSScythe]

The most reliably thing that can be done against Double assist or any really is to have an active projectile out. Cross can be done on reaction but it’ll take some good amount of time to learn to time it right each time.

[GHNeko]

Are you sure? Double just ran straight into j.HK and lost flat out lol.

[X_Sword]

question; I just had a ft20 with a buddy who uses Filia and I pull off common bnbs to get my damage then I messed up a combo which was
cr.LP cr.LK cr.HP Super Jump sj.HP air dash sj.MP(full) sj.MK (1-hit) land. In this string you land on the other side of the character right before you land and you can start offense again(using st.LK). Is this viable at all or just a small trick to pull off online?

[OmniSScythe]

She becomes venerable after a while when she’s attacking, plenty of stuff can tag her then.

What I’m mentioning is hitting her before she even gets started.

question; I just had a ft20 with a buddy who uses Filia and I pull off common bnbs to get my damage then I messed up a combo which was
cr.LP cr.LK cr.HP Super Jump sj.HP air dash sj.MP(full) sj.MK (1-hit) land. In this string you land on the other side of the character right before you land and you can start offense again(using st.LK). Is this viable at all or just a small trick to pull off online?

It’s legit but can be avoided if they have a double jump or dash of their own. Also use a quicker normal like cr.LK or attempt a grab.

[GHNeko]

She becomes venerable after a while when she’s attacking, plenty of stuff can tag her then.

What I’m mentioning is hitting her before she even gets started.

ahhh. lol. i dont even bother anymore. i just either block and duck or block and punish. rofl

this is only because it’s not the assist that’s the issue, its the characters protecting the assist.

[Fishy]

She becomes venerable after a while when she’s attacking, plenty of stuff can tag her then.

What I’m mentioning is hitting her before she even gets started.

It’s legit but can be avoided if they have a double jump or dash of their own. Also use a quicker normal like cr.LK or attempt a grab.

I bit your ass-slam/Mortuzuna drop mixup & it’s legit af~

Yes, Xythos, this guy has gimmix for DAZE~

When, exactly, is dub vulnerable during HornyBomb?

[OmniSScythe]

I bit your ass-slam/Mortuzuna drop mixup & it’s legit af~

Yes, Xythos, this guy has gimmix for DAZE~

When, exactly, is dub vulnerable during HornyBomb?

Let’s keep that mix up on the low till I win my first local later. xD

During entry and again halfway through her ram.

[GHNeko]

Yes, Xythos, this guy has gimmix for DAZE~

…wait…who?

wat.

[Fishy]

Let’s keep that mix up on the low till I win my first local later. xD

During entry and again halfway through her ram.

Entry? How many frames? Cuz I tried LP’ing her, once & I got Slam’d

Middle? Is it reactable through blockstun?

& Ass Slam mixies got me an ‘Overwhelming Victory’ against that same DblSoulCock I kept losing to with Solo Val (dakkoru) Yay! Top 100 again >.<

GZ@#2 on Leaderboard, Omni~

[Fishy]

…wait…who?

wat.

OmniSScythe :: He’s top 10 persistently~

DOZE GIMMIX~

[GHNeko]

oh. damn. i wish i was that good.

[OmniSScythe]

Entry? How many frames? Cuz I tried LP’ing her, once & I got Slam’d

Middle? Is it reactable through blockstun?

& Ass Slam mixies got me an ‘Overwhelming Victory’ against that same DblSoulCock I kept losing to with Solo Val (dakkoru) Yay! Top 100 again >.<

GZ@#2 on Leaderboard, Omni~

Only for 2 frames, which is why a projectile will always work cause they are always active.

I’ve seen the 2nd hit getting beaten by a jab once but he may have just had recovered from blockstun early by hitting the ground.

Also thanks, I manage to get 2nd in my first local only losing to one of my bro’s om nom loops. Place was really stacked for being a 25 maned tourney.

[Raging_Ghost]

Any hit confirms you guys can suggest?

[Tomo009]

Any hit confirms you guys can suggest?

Anything into c.HP, I do c.LK c.MK(1)

If they block, throw a dead cross

[SaveTheDay]

so i’ve been using
cr.:lk:, cr.:mk:, cr.:hp:, j.:lp:, j.:mp:, j.:hp:, adf, j.:mp:, j.:hk:, land, st.:lp:, st.:mp:, cr.:hp:, j.:lk:, j.:mk:, j.:hp:, qcf.:hk:, qcf. :mk::hk:
has anyone found a better bnb yet?

[SaveTheDay]

For sure I’ll try to figure out some type of mix-up at the end of the combo (before the super), because I don’t like the super taking the other character away from the corner.

Also, I am thinking on using a string starting with :mk: earlier in the combo so I get either a j.:lp: or j.:mp: string to use at the end to get the character close to the ground again, giving Valentine time to do another s.:mp:~:mp: > s.:mk: string into something else (probably triple s.:hk: into OTG :d::df::df::hk: > Super). Gotta do homework now ;(

BTW, I took a quick look at the Pinwheel thread, and I think she’s doing 9000+ with super. I was trying Ms.Fortune and she seems to have really high damage potential too.

i’m having a bit of trouble with this combo
after i land the qcf.:mk: the combo end before i get to otg cr.:lk:, cr.:mp:, cr.:hp:
what am i doing wrong?

[Fishy]

so i’ve been using
cr.:lk:, cr.:mk:, cr.:hp:, j.:lp:, j.:mp:, j.:hp:, adf, j.:mp:, j.:hk:, land, st.:lp:, st.:mp:, cr.:hp:, j.:lk:, j.:mk:, j.:hp:, qcf.:hk:, qcf. :mk::hk:
has anyone found a better bnb yet?

There’re tons of combos few pages back & in the val combo thread~