The System Mechanics Thread

Got another question about this convention. Do these rules apply exactly the same to air normals? I noticed from my own experience and in videos that a lot of people will do j.LK or j.LP (often for a chip setup), and the other guy parries it on the ground and tries to throw way too early. Is that happening because the person on the ground expected a heavier move, and the other guy hangs in the air for a longer time?

If air is like ground, different strength parry-recoveries differ by only 1f or 2f. So if heā€™s throwing way too early, then the throw was probably input before reacting to the parry at all. Still, itā€™s an interesting questionā€¦

A dumb question I know, but Iā€™m confirming something for a dude who swears up and down that Iā€™m wrong.

You canā€™t grab someone out of block-stun, right?

Say they pick Ryu/Ken they do jHK, then grab. That shouldnā€™t work, right? Because the other guy is still in block-stun, youā€™d have to wait a second in order to grab them.

This guy on GGPO swears up and down you can grab someone as theyā€™re in block-stun.

Heā€™s wrong.

He is very wrong. Itā€™s just that he might be misjudging how long he or his opponent is in blockstun.

Thatā€™s what I thought. But oddly enough it works on GGPO. Itā€™s another quirk. Dudley players love doing jHK or jHP then immediate grab.

Itā€™s not ggpo, itā€™s you. Either tech the throw or neutral jump parry.

Uhm, but Iā€™m still in block stun when they do that so saying ā€˜tech the grabā€™ doesnā€™t work.

Video plox.

So parry the jump in, anti air it, neutral jump parry after the block. Or better yet just try and stay out of dudleys jump arc range. Itā€™s a killer.

Oh and you could just delay your throw by a few frames and it would still tech, since obviously he canā€™t throw you in block stun either. Or you could do a UOH. Jesus. Just use your brain.

Why so angry dude? And yeah I use those tactics and I donā€™t know youā€™re so angry all the time. Do you write all of your posts while on the toilet and you get angrier the more you try to take a giant shit?

What can I say, idiots annoy me.

Quick check, dumb question; low attacks (like Kenā€™s crMK) interrupt Urienā€™s Headbutt on wakeup, right?

Yea, I actually already told you this in the Alex forums. Itā€™s possible to meaty reversal headbutt with all lows: c.lks, c.mks, c.hks. Heā€™ll get hit and flip in the air. Itā€™s OTG early in its start up so you cannot be too sloppy w ur low meaties if u wanna do it.

Yeah, sorry dude, I couldnā€™t find your post. Thanks again.

You canā€™t tech a throw while crouching, right?

Iā€™m pretty sure you can.

I just tested it in MAME and I couldnā€™t. I set LP/LK to one button, had my guy crouching, and I couldnā€™t tech it.

Never mind. I just tested it again, and the weird thing is if both character throw at the same time thereā€™s no tech, but if the guy crouching throws a split second later it techs. Weird.

Crouch techs exist in this game, I use them all the time. However, in order to make it work you must insure the cr lp hits them. You wonā€™t see any tech animation, youā€™ll just tap them out (and the cr lp will be throw immune if timed right).

I believe thatā€™s because if throws intersect on the same frame then it picks a random winner and doesnā€™t give the loser a tech. Can somebody more knowledgeable confirm if thatā€™s the case? I think I might be wrong.