The Suits Thread

Rachel really can’t be active, considering she’s going into law school. And the drama that would come with that (rivals in school, guy who wants to get in her pants, etc.) would be hard to sell. I’m interested corporate drama, not school drama.

I really liked this episode. Always fun seeing Harvey in action, we have Donna lines, and it really puts Mike in his place. He should be grateful being a lawyer at all, but he now knows he can never move that far up the ladder.

We all know Mike was always on borrowed time. That’s the key part of the story is how will he get exposed. What’s more interesting to me is:

-Will he make so much of an impact that when he’s found out the courts/ government will find him more useful on the outside than locked up?

-What will happen to all the cases he won once he’s seen as a fraud?

I liked Harvey’s necessary hypocrisy at the end with Scotty. He pretty much “Litt” her up.

Suits - S3 E14

Spoiler

And Louis gets his own morning wakeup scene with Sheila… but things apparently go downhill from there as his workday starts up.
Oh, shit. Possible health affliction for Louis?

10% raise for rehire and paid ride for law school is good. 200,000 for three years is quite a bill though.

lol @ Donna inadvertently procuring coffee stuffs from Harvey.

Tony G with the second-string comment to Mike, and Mike makes an issue of it with Harvey.
The mood then becomes serious when the group learns that Louis had a heart attack…

Tony G’s guy (Jonathan) wants out? Mike dropping the knowledge about a possible workaround solution.
It doesn’t sit well with Tony G., but Harvey stands up to him about some stuff.

Damn, it’s like that, huh. Jessica is like “Nope” to Rachel about law school funding stuffs.
The ‘awkward’ convo between Rachel and Louis is had, but it really shed some light on the scenario.

Louis proposing to Sheila is interesting.
lol @ the reappearance of Louis, back at the firm. lol @ the Harvey and Donna reactions to Louis hugging Harvey.
Oh, wow. Louis even asks Harvey to be his ‘best man’ for the wedding.
It appears that there are some problems for the couple concerning future living arrangements.

Apparently, Mike wants to go legit, but Harvey highlights a possible future scenario if he does.
The limited ‘present’ is all there seems to be for Mike, who is in a bind, much like Tony G’s guy.
Mike presents Jonathan with another possible option, which ends up working out and apparently rewards Mike with a job offer.

Rachel negotiates terms for law school funding and uses an advance investment scenario (like with Jessica for Harvey) to secure a deal.
Interesting, but will she be able to deliver later on, much like Harvey did?

Deal-breaker scenario for the couple. Sheila giving up Harvard is one thing, but no kids. Louis looking quite disappointed about it.
Donna sees the heartbreak fallout and gets Harvey to call up Scottie to sort through their stuff.

Preview for next episode looks interesting, as it concerns the job offer that was presented to Mike… and it looks like at least two people are okay with it?

It makes sense that people are okay with Mike’s offer. Harvey wants to see him succeed, Rachel does as well and would like to not have to worry about him getting caught as a fraud, I’m sure Jessica would LOVE him to walk out the door on his own.

Truth be told, the logical thing would be for Mike to take that offer with the quickness.

I’m trying to recall, did Mike at least get his bachelors?

Nope, he’s got nothing. And he can’t even go back to get them without raising a red flag.

Well being a high level investment banker is equivalent to having diplomatic immunity, seeing as none of them have been arrested for the financial collapse of ‘08. So I guess that’s still Mike’s best bet to avoiding fraud charges. Mo’ Money Mo’ Power. :rofl:

From what I Googled Junior Partners at law firms make between 250-600k a year. Even if Mike was on the lower end of the earnings bracket, he could just work for a few more years and dip.That would be the safest bet, otherwise he’s doing some serious gambling with his freedom.

Well he’d avoid fraud charges because technically he doesn’t require a degree to practice there. It’s obviously something you can’t walk off the street to get, but it’s legal. You’re just usually an idiot signing someone like that.

And he could work a few more years and dip, but he isn’t going to get the offer he just got elsewhere.

dammit, you guys already discussed what i was going to bring up, but let me add in.

mike shouldnt take the investment banker offer, because even though he doesnt have to have a degree, he will still be recognized for having have gone to harvard, and a genius level investment banker making millions, who use to work at a major nyc firm as a lawyer under harvey, even though he never went to harvard, passed the bar and used his fake degree to do so, is going to raise some eyebrows and eventually red flags.

mike cannot be special anymore period, except for where he is at now, or eventually moving away and maybe being a low key genius programmer, making millions behind the scenes. anyone who is anyone will be like, “harveys special sidekick is now an investment banker, who is this guy”. uh oh, more people looking into your past.

mike has to be making at least 125,000 dollars a year right now. isnt he an associate, right? i mean they have down played his life by him staying in a shitty apartment, with the only lavish thing he bought, being his grandmothers place, which he shares with rachel now. he can do his lawyer thing on the low for like 3-5 more years before people start wanting him to step up to a higher position, etc…, take all that money him and rachel would have saved up, and just move the fuck on with life. if rachel doesnt want that, then mike, stop risking your freedom, and create a gameplan.

i like how i basically predicted what was going to happen this episode too, when i said, its not like he can get a degree, because he would have to take the “bar” again, and harvey brought that up. lol. i think the right decision is for mike to stay, and stay behind the scenes at a company that he can trust that isnt going to test his morality as much as investment banking will. what does he think hes going to be a nice ole investment banker, doing good for humanity. lol. he will wanna quit in no time, after all the shady shit he will have to end up doing.

stay an associate mike, you make good money, and you can easily get out in 5 years with more then enough money to create a whole new life. you have lived an amazing lie, and actually found people to back you, and hold down that lie for you, even at their own risk. ride it out, get out in 5, and go be something else. youre a genius, with a genius mind, and although you will have to avoid fame and recognition forever, as to not risk people looking into your past. you can still live fucking great with your skill set.

i think after this season, its just gonna be a fun ride for season 4, with less drama, but who knows how the season finale will end. lol. id like to see this season end with mikes lie not reaching any new ears, even at the cost of harveys relationship. mike staying with the firm. louis moving on. no more about mikes past anymore until the series ends. rachel doing her lawyer thing, and jessica finally being able to breathe a sigh of relief.

next season should just be all about the drama of the cases themselves, and less with the firm, and those characters imo. take it back to early season 1. i know they have, but i almost feel like a case hasnt been done in so long, because so much has been overshadowed with everyones personal bullshit. get back to OTHER peoples bullshit, and how you lawyer your way around it, while sometimes testing your own morals, like mike with the dude who was high and hit someone.

they could also always end the season with jessica twerking in some lace boy shorts, and lace bra, with stilettos on, but i mean, thats just me. lol

what does mike want from being a lawyer? money? prestige? the thrill of the courtroom?

mike being boxed in at p/s doesn’t even make sense. with his brain he doesn’t even need to ever be in a courtroom to make money (if that’s his goal). he doesn’t even have to say anything in public ever. he could just follow harvey around and do the research/strategizing and come up with the random case law that wins every case for harvey. that’s gotta be worth more than associate right? he can be recognized by harvey and jessica and the rest of the firm behind closed doors without ever having to step inside a courtroom ever again.

better yet he could literally just start over if he wanted to. have the hacker delete his record from harvard and he can go anywhere else to start school again in any other field if he really wants to be legit. he could get a bachelor’s in 3 years and then go be an investment banker or whatever the hell he wants to be. he really doesn’t even need a degree to be an investment banker. he could probably just sit with someone who has the licenses and tell them what to do with people’s money so his name wouldn’t actually be on the transactions but still do all the work/analysis.

It’s already been covered, but the biggest problem with Mike is that there are too many people wrapped up in HIS lie… If he gets found out, then everyone at Pearson/Specter outside of Louis and random associates is DONE.

Jessica has plausible deniability, but she’d quickly become a laughing stock within the legal world… Harvey will have charges brought against him/be disbarred, and every case Mike ever worked on would be thrown out, and the firm will drown in lawsuits.

If Mike goes anywhere, or tried to go legit now, he’d be found out and that’s that. The problem now is that its just now sinking in that he will never get to be like Harvey and get his shine on and get his name on the wall.

He’d always be the man behind the man, and I don’t think that’s enough for a bright guy with a slight ego like Mike… Of course, making a bunch of money, having a hot girlfriend, and the respect of the best lawyers in the world does take the sting out a bit…

He has a job he loves and makes good money. Mike should be grateful for where he is. Yes, he won’t get the spotlight or move very far up the ladder, but he shouldn’t even be there in the first place.

It’s not a matter of being grateful. Yes, he enjoys his work and for the present, that’s enough. But between the fact that every day there seems to be another person that find out about his lack of a Harvard Degree, and the fact that he can NEVER move past where he is now is depressing.

And ALSO consider the fact that if he doesn’t get promoted or become visible that will raise red flags within itself. Mike Ross, the only associate Harvey Specter has ever hand picked, a Junior Associate that’s respected by even the highest ranks of the firm, isn’t getting promoted after multiple years in the future? Eyebrows will be raised to that as well.

This can only end one of three ways. His ass in shackles. Him leaving the firm for another job. Or somehow he finds a way to get a Harvard Degree, a legitimate one, without anyone realizing he didn’t have it in the first place.

Jessica could figure out a way to fire him if she really wanted to protect her own company. But she doesn’t. Yes, they get to use his unique skills. But do you think they need him? Nope. This is all for him. He’s there only because they let him. Everyday that he is working, there’s a risk of his secret coming out. The firm and Mike cannot risk even more attention drawn upon them. He shouldn’t be there at all. Be grateful for the piece of pie he can have, rather than go “dammit, I can’t have the whole thing!” No shit. Do you still want to keep on eating your slice or what?

Jessica doesn’t care so much to fire him anymore. Yeah he’s a pain in the ass, but he’s an asset to the firm that she doesn’t have to promote. It’s essentially like having one of your best players on a sports team roster, but having them on Injured Reserve with them still allowed to play.

And again, being grateful isn’t fucking enough. “Oh, well I shouldn’t be here at all, well I guess I’ll just continue living like this for the rest of my life, or at least until I eventually get caught and take everyone down with me”

You’re saying he wants too much. I’m saying he needs a fucking future. As it is now, he has no future. The only future he has is a jail cell or going back to his old life with nothing. There’s no other option here. This thing has an expiration date no matter what option is taken. If he stays, he doesn’t risk getting caught, he WILL get caught. Simple as that. And if he goes, he’s got nothing because he’s locked himself out of getting a legitimate degree at any decent Law School due to his time at this firm.

Enjoying the ride works if you don’t think your life is going to last that much longer. It doesn’t work when you have another 50 years staring at you and you have no alternatives.

Real talk, if he doesn’t take the offer, he’s screwed.

suits officially turned into a trash show. smh. anticlimactic “i’m on the bar!” . wow. Welcome to another lawyer show . Disgusted .

well that was a weird episode,and the season finale looks crazy.

how was mike not on the bar? lol. even in the last episode harvey said he couldnt take the bar again because he is already in the system and they would have to hack in and change it. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. like, there is no reason mike shouldnt have taken and passed the bar. hes in harvards system. i imagine they just do a basic checkup to verify that he graduated, and thats that. they dont sit down and interview teachers just for you to be able to take the bar. we know that because mike has taken and passed it plenty of times already.

mikes decision to stay was inevitable, although a bit unclimatic. him thinking he could leave and be just fine was a big wtf moment of this episode. like dude, you are basically a genius in this show, do you really think you would be able to just quit and everything would be fine, as the entire firm starts to come crashing down because of your fucking lie. i bet mike gets fired at the end of this season, and the first few episodes of season 4 you see him just tooling around, being a house bum until pearson comes back for him and the coast is clear.

harvey needs to dump scottie. shes being a fucking child right now about something harvey cannot tell her. bitch, it must be a huge deal that isnt just some simple lie if he cannot tell you. leave the man the fuck alone. i like that donna implied um yeah, dont tell scottie shit because what you have with her is garbola anyways.

Donna and Harvey need to stop playing around. I know that the Boss/Secretary shit is cliche, but they are meant to be. She’s the only person who knows how to check him when he’s in the wrong, he needs that kind of woman at his side. Scottie isn’t strong enough to bruise his ego, or insightful enough to get him to come to his senses. That’s what Donna does for him and she does it better than any other woman can.

I’m not trippin’ on Mike’s shit. Mike would’ve moved on if it wasn’t for Harvey’s ego, Mike took a risk for him with this move. Harvey’s putting everything at risk for him, but didn’t want him to go the moment a perfectly good “get-out now” chance comes along.

It’d be cool seeing Mike destroy in some other field. Then come to realize (or he always knew) he wanted to be a lawyer and then come back. Showing an ep or two somewhere else would be nice, IMO. But him coming back would be inevitable and perhaps too forced.

Mike keeps making dumb decisions. It’s always interesting when smart people continually make dumb decisions.

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Scottie is waaaaaay too unstable and fickle to ever entrust a secret that could destroy your future. Harvey is on the verge on going full retard trusting her with something that big so soon. At least Donna truly knows Harvey and is pragmatic about her decisions, for the most part.

It would’ve been better if he did partner up with the banker dude, become successful, get found out because of haters, and then Harvey and friends will flex their muscle bailing him out. Would’ve made for more compelling television.

At this point, if Mike does get caught by staying, I have no pity for him. Investment bankers wear Suits too Mike.