Yeah, I mean why are they downplaying the player because he made some weird choices. I don’t see him mashing st.LK in hitstun as something any different than mashing reversals in SF4 or doing wakeup jab in SF5. He is banking on his opponent to mess up.
What i mean is theory fighter is something and going for stuff that is technically a " bad option " doesn’t mean that this option wouldn’t work. Playing too much by the book usually doesn’t yield good results, you gotta YOLO sometimes.
He got dat losers bracket doe. Figure out Tokidos gameplan and beat him in double jeopardy.
Doesn’t he use Birdie also or am I thinking of someone else?
Nah you’re thinking of MenaRD.
Aren’t Ken players always whining about how Vega is a tough m/u?
Maybe I’m getting it backwards in my head.
to be fair it is a 9-1 matchup for Vega.
nah that Vega is bad… (in my Veserius voice)
I do think it is one of Ken’s hardest match ups.
I dunno, Vega can be tough if they know how to play midrange against Ryu, and he gets free jump-ins over fireballs with his weird jump arc. Just like Nash.
But Ryu just needs a knockdown.
Why does everyone pick color 2 for Cammy ? I almost never see anyone pick her main default Green outfit anymore.
wat? of course not lol it is stupidly bad for Vega. Almost as bad as Laura and Mika.
Yeah no. Vega mauls the living fuck out of Ken mid screen. The only situation Ken actually gets control of Vega is in the corner, but getting him there when none of your damn buttons can hit Vega is extremely difficult.
All the little hitbox/hurtbox interactions suck for Vega and once the Vega knows how to deal with the shenanigans it’s extremely tough for Ken to get anything started.
whaa
unless you predict the fireball, ryu recovers well before you land with vega. Eat srk or jab aa.
yeah no.
I don’t think you understand the term maul.
Ken crushes Vega, no amount of weird beliefs you have changes this hard fact.
Great argument.
I’ll just point to the fact that Nemo has made Eita his bitch by winning 9/10 games against him and even Momochi has to sit there and bleed damage mid screen hoping to get in.
He can make the SRK whiff if he empty jump, unless he jumps really close, and Ryu jab isn’t as reliable as people make it out to be.
Based on what? Hard fact that most Vega players play the match up horribly wrong?
My beliefs are based on having played that match up a shit ton. If the Vega player knows how to play the match up it’s extremely hard for Ken to get anything started. All the little hitbox/hurtbox interactions in that match up absolutely blow for Ken.
Vega can do that(jump in attack/no attack for srk whiff) from a very specific range yes, but its not a reliable tool like how Birdie can do it. You are correct that Ryu jab isn’t end all be all, but it is against vega. It beats his j.lk which is his most reliable jump button 100% of the time. To get the magic range where you can jump that fireball safely you gotta give up a lot of screen and it isn’t a real world gameplan.
I have heard once that the Ken mirror match is 2-8 in favor of the opponent Ken. #Truestory
The struggle of the Ken life man.