No Seth on that list either.
I think that Cammy is overstated. She can still frame trap with cr.lp by chaining into s.lp. If you want to go into mediums you just have to start with s.lp now. She just can’t do literally everything from cr.jab now
He can definitely fight a lot of those characters fairly well. Way better than he’ll get credit for.
Even Falke can fight Akuma and Urien well. Doesn’t make her top tier.
The question is if Zeku has as many good match ups and broken tools as those characters.
Don’t get him started again 
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Seems pretty resonable for the 4 CF S-Tiers.
Es has literally no bad MU and only one real weakness and that weakness is only accesable once per round if not even once per match.
Litchi is Litchi, one button Neutral, giant Buttons, pressure for days, high damage
Izanami has like 2 4-6 MUs, the rest is either good or neutral.
And Arakune has Curse… Curse makes every MU pointless. Shows how broken that thing is, when he loses against the majority of the cast and is even considerd Terumi Tier without it.
Wondering why he’s considerd so good, then you remember they could never balance his shitshow of a Drive.
That’s not how the priority system works in V. The only time a heavy will beat a medium or a light is if they trade on the same frame. If your 3-5 frame light/medium button is trading on the exact frame with an 8f startup heavy, then that’s on you.
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As many good match ups? Probably.
He isnt broken kike SF4 or 3S characters but you dont have be broken to be great. Ken isnt doing broken shit in 3S; he us just hitting you hard with a strong super and one DP link. Zeku is really fucking good and mountains of tech people dont touch.
Altogethet he might be right under S given all the stuff he can do. He may not be doing G tier robbery, but he can EX DP xx VT2 to get himself out of pressure and corner you for it. Thats insanely good. Oh and he gets multiple mix ups from it.
If you can have even match ups against top tier characters and then beat some common characters you may see at tournament, you’re definitely up there.
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And yet you keep bringing it up.
You keep bringing it up. The issue was dead before you entered the discussion. You are coming off as the crusader here. I’ve spent more time with you on this than with Cipher. Literally everyone else has moved on . Let it go already. If you directly reply to me, of course I’m going to respond.
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Hold up.
Neutral MUs don’t make a character good. How many of those she has?
When I think S-tier, I think mostly good MUs with some great ones, very few neutral ones and even less bad ones.
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Rashid doesn’t 6-4 the entire cast either, but he’s top tier. A lot of his matchups against other top tiers are 5-5 or slightly his advantage.
Really not my point, as you can see.
My point is: “People shouldn’t list Top Tier as S-Tier just because they’re top tier. S-Tiers by definition are so far ahead of the rest that they break the scaling system.”
I even gave an example that most people here could understand with ST Akuma.
You can represent Top Tier by A+ without any disservice to them.
They’re the best in the list, but they’re not broken. Just how Rashid isn’t really broken in SFV.
She loses to two characters in Es and Izayoi, she beats most of the cast and her even MUs are either very strong High Tiers or very specific stuff.
I would have to double check the MU Chart, but I’m sure she beats anyone outside the Top 10 at least 6-4.
I honestly think SFV has ran its course for a lot of people. It isn’t just on SRK. I’ve noticed a lot of people barely talk about the game in general…unless they’re complaining. Me? I only play the game around twice a week nowadays. I can still enjoy the game, but I’d be lying if I said the staleness wasn’t there. It is. I know some people who can barely find matches since the update.
With no more higher leagues to grind to and no further updates in the pipeline, the thirst isn’t there like it was prior. Yes, fighting games only require you to play others, but how much you connect with a game plays a huge part, too.
For example, MVC3 is a game I can still play for hrs upon hrs despite that game obviously being done for yrs. And when I say hrs, I’m simply referring to labbing the game up with random teams. I played SFV for a few yrs and had a great time with it. The fact that I put so much time into it and hit my goals (and more) is why I’m fine not playing it as much anymore.
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Sorry we didn’t get the chance to send you to CPT event man 
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Ok, let’s talk about this staleness.
We know, despite Daemos’s claims of the contrary, that SFV’s popularity has been on a decline.
However, after Champion Edition dropped, and it feels like the final revision of the game for multiple reasons, that decline accelerated until the game just kinda went off the radar because of the (correct) suspension of CPT Events due to the pandemic.
Now, let’s discuss, what happened to SFV after CE dropped?
Is my assumption that the perceived lack of new characters and patches finally silenced the loud group of people who just wanted their mains back/their mains buffed/other characters nerfed?
Is it just the logical conclusion of the diminishing hype after S4’s PR fumbling?
Is it just because the CPT and most events are suspended and that it’ll pick up where it left off when they come back?
Find out, on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z!
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Jump into 3S with these guys. I know you got 30th. They out there walking away with black eyes and hitting me up on SRK like “Thank you Sensei”.
Who trying to catch hands tonight?
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Anyone tryna catch hands on PC 30th or Skullgirls?
I might be bothered to reinstall them if we can get some lounges running.
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I’ve taken games off you in SFV online and we both know you’d 10-0 me off line with ease.
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