The Street Calibur 5 Lounge: The Soul Burns But not as Hard as the FGC is Burning

Oh shit Jeah that’s cheap. That’s only 20$ CAD. Think imma pick it up. Dust off the ol’ Raphael and hope for the best

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Would get it but seems all the people on this forum plays it on PS4.

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You can probably find a bunch of PC players here that think the same thing. I know I saw someone say the exact same stuff here a while ago. Can’t remember who tho.

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I lack the patience to learn a new fighting game at the moment anyway.

Imma stick to Red Dead and live the dream.

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I thought about double dipping for the 100 extra CAC slots…erm to play people on PC here. Even when the game was $15, the season pass was full price. So even with the base game on sale it was $50. That’s $2 a CAC slot…I mean too much just for a few games with SRKers here and there . :wink:

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I’m probably going to grab BB Tag for PS4. I couldn’t find a character I liked in BBCF, but I could see loving a bunch of them in a tag game with simplified character-specific mechanics/resources.

I may also grab that MK11 Aftermath expansion… I have the premium edition anyway, so I might as well, but I also know I’m not going to play it until custom variations become a thing (which is unlikely) so I may not bother

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I’ve been following news on Assassin’s Creed Valhalla because I was thinking of getting it once it gets discounted considerably or comes out with a complete edition or whatever.

Apparently some news have come out recently revealing that the developers for the last Assassin’s Creed games have been pushing for a bigger role for female characters since Syndicate but have always been opposed by the higher management due to their belief that “female characters don’t sell”.

It really makes a lot of sense in hindsight: in Syndicate there were two playable characters, a brother and a sister, and the developers originally wanted them to have equal playtime but were shut down, then in Unity there’s the wife of the main character who’s a major character and was definitely meant to be playable but that never happened, then in Odyssey the plan was to make Kassandra the sole protagonist but the developers had to settle on the ability to pick both genders.

You’d think that these people never heard of Lara Croft, but my guess is that their marketing analyses is telling them that there’s a certain demographic that doesn’t like playing female characters to the point that they’d rather not buy the game at all, and even though I’m pretty sure there’s not a lot of people who feel so strongly about it the people in charge at Ubisoft would rather walk over the creative liberty of the developers than lose even the smallest amount of money they can make off sales.

As someone said, people in charge of companies don’t want to make a lot of money. They want to make all the money, and nothing less.

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I may get some hate for this statement but for me Ubisoft games have not been good in quite some time.

Sure, the speed of which they develop open world areas is impressive but it’s just the tired eyed formula they keep repeating for all their titles and slap a new theme on it.They pack up the world with a lot of missions but i never get the urge to do most of them for some reason.

I expect the next Assassins Creed game after Vikings to be in Japan and be about ninjas / samurais and the sorts,especially after the success of Ghost of Tsushima.

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No man, listen, you’re totally off on this.

That’s not an unpopular statement, that’s just common knowledge. Rest is right tho.

Do it, dude!! There’s many of us here who can play with you

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What i wat to know is why in that rumor, the cancellation of Evo leads to them not wanting anything from their tournaments or the implementation of rollback netcode to their games.

Like, that really has nothing to do with that, lol.

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Dang, if that SC6 rumor isn’t bullshit, then we’re looking at SNK and ArcSys to be the last companies to actually adopt (or at least express interest) in Rollback netcode

SFV has it (shittily implemented but still)
SC6 reportedly is getting it
so is T7, also reportedly
GG Strive is confirmed (but implementation is unknown yet)
Fighting EX Layer is beta testing it
UNIEL might get it with the next major update since French Bread have explored Rollback
MK11 just keeps on improving the godlike NRS Rollback

That just leaves the following titles still using Delay:

  • SamSho
  • Granblue
  • FighterZ
  • DOA6
  • Cross Tag

KOFXV may also still be behind the times and release with Delay netcode

Apparently, games with a female prominently displayed on the cover sell fewer copies, even if the protagonist in-game is a male; they’ve observed this time and again. Perhaps the Tomb Raider games were so successful despite that, not because of it.

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Why does Disney continue to be fucking retarded when it comes to handling Star Wars? Can’t they do something right for god sakes!?!?! I’m so fucking exhausted lol

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What happened? :rofl:

I just really don’t care that much any more. If they do something I like? Cool, but other wise fuck it.

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I don’t even follow Star wars but when Disney started buying everything you I figured it’d just be a cash grab.

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I think that’s the case. The demographic for big console/PC games is still composed by a majority of males, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some subtle psychological thing going on that turns off a bunch of guys from taking interest to games with women on the cover, even if it happens subconsciously, leading to a lower amount of sales.

Games like that can still sell extremely well (Tomb Raider in the '90s) and modern big marketing can further neutralize that effect (Sony’s support and marketing for games like Horizon Zero Dawn and TLOU2 definitely helps to ensure big sales regardless of what’s on the cover), but I guess that some investors only care for as many sales as possible and will oppose anything that can even remotely reduce those numbers. It’s shitty for creativeness, but that’s an effect of Capitalism.

There’s also the possible factor of how the current culture influences things.

When you have devs pushing female characters just for woke purposes and neglecting the actual quality of the game, a natural reaction is that games that openly push female characters are seen as woke trash.

It’s a movement that sabotages itself and alienates the majority of the consumers, and that goes for all media.

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Has that been observed time and again?

There are plenty of other factors at play in whether a game succeeds or not. You also have companies with sometimes entirely unrealistic expectations, which afterward often seem to look for any excuse other than their own faults.

Multiple developers have said that publishers for years have balked at putting female characters on covers for sales reasons, and that publishers have also fought to have female leads changed to male leads.

But it isn’t like we have proof that a Call of Duty game would sell less just for having a female on the cover, the way that publishers apparently fear. And even if you could point to such a Call of Duty, there are so many different reasons why any Call of Duty might see sales slip or increase that you’d never be able to prove the cover had any real world effect.

You can’t even look at a game like Bayonetta and say with full certainty that it sold worse than Devil May Cry because Bayonetta was a woman. Despite the similarities, they are different games released to different situations. We don’t know that Bayonetta would have sold any better if its lead had been a guy. Maybe it would have sold better. Maybe it would have sold worse. Maybe the franchise would have died with the first game, lacking the vocal support of a dedicated fan base. At the very least, I’m pretty sure that people wouldn’t have been crying for male Bayonetta to be added to Smash.

It is even worse when you see a game like Remember Me used as “proof” that female leads don’t sell. Remember Me saw mediocre sales because it was a mediocre game. You see this repeatedly… The female lead gets blamed for an honestly fairly meh game, or an otherwise flawed game, failing to top the charts.

Tomb Raider was certainly successful because the main character was female. Tomb Raider would never have generated the following it received with a male lead; Lara Croft was a large part of the marketing.

Horizon: Zero Dawn had a female lead, who was present on the cover. It sold 7.6mil copies in its first year of release. Sure, that was less than Uncharted 4, but it was also the first game in a new franchise in a completely different setting. Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice (female protagonist, female on cover) sold over 1mil copies in its first year, and was considered a resounding success for a mid-tier release, and proof that the games industry didn’t have to keep funneling larger and larger sums into development. Life is Strange was considered successful. While The Last of Us had a male protagonist, it still managed to sell absurdly well despite the supposed death knell of prominently showing a female character on its cover. (Seriously, Naughty Dog had to fight to keep Ellie in the foreground due to such fears.)

By now everyone knows Samus Aran is female, but Metroid games are still popular. Perfect Dark’s N64 release is still remembered today, it seemingly wasn’t crippled by daring to show its female lead on the box art.

I’ve a feeling Senran Kagura wouldn’t sell as well without its prominent female characters. The Oneechanbara series would have been a Simple Series one-and-done. There are entire markets sustained by prominent female appearances.

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