The SSJ5 General Thread: E3 happening but Ono doesn't Spirit Bomb

[Naeras]

Phil Hellmuth is for poker what Daigo Umehara rolled together with LowTierGod and DSP are for Street Fighter.
That guy is a huge piece of shit with an incredible amount of skill.

The Leffen of poker.

inb4 “omg he mentioned smash /triggerd”

[appo]

You know who has a record of releasing things on time

Spoiler

http://media1.gameinformer.com/filestorage/CommunityServer.Components.SiteFiles/imagefeed/featured/warnerbros/mortalkombatx/historyoffatalities/Ed%20Boon%20Headshot610.jpg

You know who has a record of releasing things in a pitiful state

Spoiler

http://media1.gameinformer.com/filestorage/CommunityServer.Components.SiteFiles/imagefeed/featured/warnerbros/mortalkombatx/historyoffatalities/Ed%20Boon%20Headshot610.jpg

Those are the same guys. Theres 2 Ed Boons?

one is called tyrone…boon.

[ribu]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

[Veserius]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

You really think so? Tournament results are very diverse, though some individual matchups suck hard.

[unofficialdocument]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

Well, what I mean is that from what I’ve heard is that some characters get adjustments, but they end up getting some nifty tools in return. Whereas Ryu just became crippled, because of the nerf bat.

[Evil_Canadian]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

AE straight up made me quit sf cold turkey til ae2012, so incredibly boneheaded it was unbelievable.

[RAW_Guts]

Now that my knee-jerk reaction has died down I’m not as mad about the delay, per se. I’m really more interested in that “More to come this month” segment. It’s short, but considering they announced costumes, new stage, and deconfirmed CFN update this month, I’m wondering what they could possibly have left to share.

Byron

[Evil_Canadian]

Phil Hellmuth is for poker what Daigo Umehara rolled together with LowTierGod and DSP are for Street Fighter.
That guy is a huge piece of shit with an incredible amount of skill.

The Leffen of poker.

inb4 “omg he mentioned smash /triggerd”

I don’t know if Phil hellmuth is prone to crying in public when things don’t go his way or throwing all his shit on the ground violently like leffen.

[crash_and_burn]

I think they scrapped Byron. They read all the hate and did an about face. They probably also realized they didn’t have time to properly balance the game for an unplanned character to be moved into position in his place. This is besides the CFN issues they cited.

That’s why my bet is that we will see Arcade Mode before Byron.

Because we may never see Byron as anything other than an NPC.

[unofficialdocument]

Now that my knee-jerk reaction has died down I’m not as mad about the delay, per se. I’m really more interested in that “More to come this month” segment. It’s short, but considering they announced costumes, new stage, and deconfirmed CFN update this month, I’m wondering what they could possibly have left to share.

Byron

If it truly is Byron, then I hope that they make him as interesting as Kolin. I actually hope he’ll be a defensive character.

[appo]

at this point mk11 will be released before capcom finishes their game…

[Akhos]

I’m telling you guys, Byron isn’t the next character. Listen to me for once!

[ribu]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

You really think so? Tournament results are very diverse, though some individual matchups suck hard.

That’s the view I’ve developed from talking to older GG players, looking at reactions to results/changes since Sign, and playing/watch ing…

I mean at the end of the day characters have more than enough options and actually fleshed out gameplans for anyone to be hopeless. But I won’t say there isn’t a clear, massive gap in stength between characters like Sin or Elphelt and characters like Dizzy or Jam or Pot.

[unofficialdocument]

I’m telling you guys, Byron isn’t the next character. Listen to me for once!

I’m skeptical it is him, though.

[OceanMachine]

Why is everyone thinking it’s Byron again? The 3rd silhouette has a collar thing that doesn’t appear in any of Byron’s designs and he seems to be using gloves.

[Nobus3r1]

Sure thing they gonna get way less money when Season Pass 3 time will come.

I Capcom tries to sell a Season Pass 3 that’s structured the same way Season Passes 1 and 2 (i.e. give us money up front and we’ll give you characters when we’re not too busy making extraneous Chun-Li costumes) then we’ll know for sure that they we’re a bunch of gullible idiots.

I think the worst part of all this is that they still won’t say who the next character even is, I mean for fuck’s sake Capcom you could, at the very least, have dropped the character trailer alongside this news to soften the PR blow.

I don’t think that they [Capcom] know who the next character is. I’m dead serious.

[unofficialdocument]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

You really think so? Tournament results are very diverse, though some individual matchups suck hard.

That’s the view I’ve developed from talking to older GG players, looking at reactions to results/changes since Sign, and playing/watch ing…

I mean at the end of the day characters have more than enough options and actually fleshed out gameplans for anyone to be hopeless. But I won’t say there isn’t a clear, massive gap in stength between characters like Sin or Elphelt and characters like Dizzy or Jam or Pot.

At least Xrd’s husbando game is on point.

[appo]

I’m telling you guys, Byron isn’t the next character. Listen to me for once!

then any of the other finished story mode chars…but he will come this year for sure.
taunt…cancel…frame?

[ribu]

Switching my vote from Byron to Karins butler. Will play like Butler guy from kof14 minus cool gravity powers.

[Naeras]

I think games would last longer if companies just buffed weaker characters to compete with top tiers as opposed to nerfing top tiers AND changing how characters play.

Everyone says(including capcom for sf5) this is what they are gonna do

then they never do it

then usually nerf low tier(vega,alex,fang) to boot.

Waiting for SF4:AE changelogs to come out, and I see they nerfed Blanka almost made me quit the character.

In comparison Xrd is like Christmas when you don’t play top-top tier, your character might get some minor nerfs but your compensation buffs are shiny new stuff.

Nerfing low tier is just indefensible really. Even if the character has statistically done really well at low level or something, isolate what the issue is, nerf it, then give a compensation buff that won’t effect low tier play as much. Not rocket science.

Holy shit it hurt so much when F.A.N.G got nerfed. Literally, no reason to make him slower while giving him such a low damage buff.

On the other hand, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Xrd’s balance.

Xrd balance is secretly meh…but again…that’s a secret.

You really think so? Tournament results are very diverse, though some individual matchups suck hard.

That’s the view I’ve developed from talking to older GG players, looking at reactions to results/changes since Sign, and playing/watch ing…

I mean at the end of the day characters have more than enough options and actually fleshed out gameplans for anyone to be hopeless. But I won’t say there isn’t a clear, massive gap in stength between characters like Sin or Elphelt and characters like Dizzy or Jam or Pot.

I’d agree that there’s a clear gap between the very best and the very worst.
I do not agree that there’s a massive gap, though.