I prefer it to go fast, through fireballs, and across the screen like his his old Super from ST.
2xQCF on new ultra? haylz yeahuz
but seriously, what’s up with juri getting a “non-direct-hit” ultra aka some sort of semi-cc and not bison?
shit, they could even call it “painting the fence” if bison had it!
as of now, he just needs ways to combo into BOTH his ultras and some aa stuff to give him some edge in this all too defensive game.
sf4 doesn’t deserve bison.
oh, and they should TOTALLY give him an alternate costume that makes him look like urien, thong and all. ah, fuck it, give him an aegis reflecor as his super while you’re at it!
He don’t need COMBO into Ultra. WTF is everyone’s obsession with COMBOing into Ultra. There’s way better options to setup the Ultra.
i think NMB will get a boost in some way. More invincibility frams on startup, and maybe a better first SK with more distance so it could actually go THROUGH most fireballs rather than get hit halfway through.
A higher hit box would be good (hell the jMP x2 one pulls people in from 20 feet in the air, yet doing it as an AA lets most characters land and block no problem)
Currently, the only ways I really land it is as chip damage round finish, punish character mistakes (whiffed/blocked ultra, rufus jesus kick, guile cHK, etc), punish after a meaty slide, jMP (usually after I teleport backwards from up in front of my opponent luring them to jump), and ONCE i managed to do it after empty DR lol. Not many situations when you compare other characters.
As an AA would be completely fair to bison. When he has no ultra, his jump in defence options are limited. Giving him a solid AA attack while having ultra wouldn’t be OP considering how useful other characters ultras are. Chun Li’s ultra can go through fireballs, and hit of various juggles ffs.
edit: wow a lot of people replied before i did!
first of all, comboing into ultra is the same as his current one (albeit to a possibly lesser extent), however the ability to avoid other ultras completely, as well as a vast assortment of supers and specials and who knows what else, OUTWEIGHS COMBOING INTO IT.
I still wonder weird things about it though:
can I FA into it (not just FADC)?
can it punish footsies?
what happens when it’s blocked?
how many invincibility frames does it have during the HS part (it avoided/countered Guiles lame gaynado)?
can the actual HS part AA a person like a HS can?
is the QCFx2 command set in stone, or just there for ease of use in the current build?
can we get more purple?
only 3 hits!? (both a question and a statement…cant it hit like 20 times like most other ultras while he psycho shocks you?)
i have toooo many questions about this ultra
i already like it more than NMB though…
seriously? of course he needs it. it’s another way he can dish out damage!
haven’t you ever been in a match with bison and after having a life disadvantage to your opponent and the other player has been great at keeping you out? when you’ve force your way in on your opponent, having a way to punish with the strongest attack your character has in a way like a combo is pretty valuable imho.
having a good way to combo into an ultra is a reliable high-damage gut spilling, and as it stands now, those with a good combo-> ultra have an easier time than those who don’t.
setups outside of comboes are nice, but fuck up and a character who CAN combo into ultra will surely do it and eat your ass laughing while you’re crying.
not sure if is proven or not but there are people saying FA lvl 2 only crumples as a counter hit or else it must be FA lvl 3.
if that is the case then FA into PP wouldnt work as much even if it does hit
The chars that have combo into FADC ultra setups are chars with good invincible moves that launch. If this new Uc2 works on jumpers, works against fireballs, there’s no combo fadc ultra needed. They flinch, you hit qcfx2 + PPP, they eat a psycho shotgun to the chest for 500 damage.
^Pretty much.
Well I saw a Gouken vid show off the “wall bounce” stuff, and Bisons Jump MP xx into nightmare booster will find some use with it.That makes Bison all the more of a monster scene boss already got a monstrous Corner game. Depending on how often Bison is able to bounce his opponent off the wall, I do think that jump Mp xx into Nightmare booster will find a lot of use in SSF4.
I see it doing 400 damage TOPS. NB already does 560 damage Full Strength. If Dictator is going to have an easier Ultra, it should be at least weaker to make up the difference.
Not necessarily by looking at Abel’s ultra. Well anything can happen.
This would be awesome. Reminds me of Iori’s desperation where people uses it as AA. I’ll vote for this one!
His new Ultra is cool and all but I’m more interested in hearing about how his specials have changed or not changed. I think someone said earlier in the thread that HS and EX HS are the same but what about PC and DR?
sorry for the late reply. A buffer system basically holds your button input for more than 1-frame, effectively making the execution of tight-windowed links much easier. Think of it as free double tapping or P-linking, except possibly even more lax depending on how wide of a window the buffer allows.
I’m sure people will see frame tweaks, but I expect them to be minor at best(such as sak’s crossup). It seems a little inpractical to rework everybody’s frames just to allow easier links. For example, say if Dictator got +2 frame hit stun on his moves across the board, suddenly he would be able to do the following:
c.lk, s.lk, c.mk, c.mk xx hk.scissors
I can’t be 100% sure since the frame data is down, but this is what I recall from memory. It’d be a pretty big boost to dictator’s combo damage, which might make capcom feel it’s necessary to tone him down in other areas. Then the character would have to re-tested for balance. If this is done for every character, it doesn’t seem very possible given the development time-frame between SF4 and SSF4.
A the only thing that bison really need is a better AA. His standing RH and cr FP are ok but, get hit too much give him his standing FP from CvS2 and, his golden
This. Oh god, we need this.
mmmm that’d be good stuff. Doubt it’ll happen though. His current close FP is too pretty for them to change it.
Buuuut since Bisons already getting a QCFx2 move… it’d only be logical for him to get his Psycho Banish from CVS2 ^___^
While they’re at it, make the EX version an overhead and cause crumple 
oh yes
The new Ultra looks really really cool but I really do think it should be charge dispite it making life easier. Thats just the character Bison is.
As nice as it is to keep tradition going, I’m not going to say no to the advantages of a motion ultra.
Yea cause FADCing (2 EX bars) for that extra c.lk in that combo decimates the compeition!
Thats what Ryu should do instead of his Ultra. He would probably get higher on the tier list.