All dictator players show some luv for hes new ultra!
No, probably not going to see PC FADC Ultra2. They all still knock down. I’m not sure about Scissors FADC ULtra2, might not be enough hit stun. YOu can almost barely do SK fadc short short right now, let alone a new Ultra. It’s not gonna be less than 4 frames.
However, Ultra 2 can solve a lot of his issues. He doesn’t have a lot of problems per se. Just that his combos were hard to deal with, people had to resort to poking and chipping other people down if they couldn’t deal with the link combo execution and they ended up doing really weak combos that were cancels.
Love the new ultra, disappointed that it’s a motion ultra.
Im with on this brother. I cant wait. I really like this new Ultral, really badass.
I guess Super Shoryu wants to keep teleporting instead of an Ultra coming out.
Motion’s good
I disagree. It’s not about which is good or better… Bison is a charge character almost exclusively, keep it that way. If you want motion, the majority of the cast are motion characters. And honestly, if you’re having problems pulling off motion supers/ultras, then the issue lies in your poor execution.
I dont think you are looking at the bigger picture. The SF4 engine does in fact help motion command characters over charger characters. This just tells me that Capcom understands this and they are helping charger characters out.
I looked at it as an improvement. SF4 does seem to dick charge characters over more than motion characters. FADC’s don’t benefit charge characters much. Burn 2 meters for crouching shorts? Really? Maybe the Ultra2 is not comboable into, but I’m not gonna mind. If it’s easy to pull off when you need it, why not?
Keeping charge motion for this new Ultra doesn’t make it better IMO.
Yeah with the qcfx2 motion Bison can now deal big damage when taking a step forward unlike now.
I am bit worried no one has mentioned how his Psycho crusher is…I am guessing it’s still garbage…
Besides in 3s, all Super Arts were QCF,QCF motions. Even for the charge characters, theres a reason for this. Which is pretty apparent in SF4.
New Ultra looks nice. I still wonder about PC improvements. I really hope they make Knee Press immune to sweeps since it should be airborne.
How in the world would Bison having a QCFx2 ultra be a bad thing? It can only be good.
Now, he can stay close to the opponent and use the ultra when the opportunity presents itself–no 2 second charge requirement.
How many times have you been focus-fishing, caught a limb and not been able to ultra because you didn’t have your charge ready?
Also, think of the offensive mind-games and punishment potential that a motion-ultra offers. Before, a common offensive session might consist of: scissors, lk xx scissors, scissors, st.hk or throw, maybe?
If the opponent makes one wrong guess when trying to escape the “trap” (say, SRK or jump back HK, or throw), it could be lights-out!
When you add the potential of being caught with an ultra, it makes Bison a much scarier individual.
It seems like Ultra II will be a lot less situational.
It must be said that we don’t know everything about the new ultra, however. It could have crappy startup and recovery; we just don’t know at this point.
The start up looks about as fast as you can react to Elfuerte’s Uc1. It’s likely not something you throw out preemptively like Nightmare Booster (Anti air) sometimes.
My understanding is that the old cast has been largely untouched in terms of rebalancing (with the exception of new ultras). So we have yet to really see what the new Bison is like.
I agree and I can see all your guys points about Bison getting a step up for moves, but what about Guile huh? Or Blanka? They are charge characters as well…I didn’t see there Ultras get Quarter motions. You can’t make an exception for one, two, or three charge characters(Chun-li’s 2nd Ultra and Rog’s Dirty Bull 720 motion)) and let the others get screwed too…that’s hypocritical.
Now…If they change or give every charge character a quarter motion…then maybe I’ll see an exception, but Bison doesn’t really need this. But to offset it’s positives, it might be a weak Ultra to counter the quarter motion.
Any sight of Bison’s third costume? I hope it’s better than his current alt.
WOW, there are actually people here complaining that his new Ultra is Motion style!
Motion style Ultra for Bison is a dream come true.
So wait, how does the new Ultra hits, Low hit, Mid Hit?
I only saw the Ultra during that Guile vs. Bison fight.
i believe its a grab. it animates like head stomp and if connects bison grabs his opponent
Bison just got a HUGE buff people.
Bison’s a mainly offensive character, there’s a difference. Guile and Blanka do well enough turtling. They have plenty of time to charge. You don’t have the same luxury with Bison. His defense is not great and it was never meant to be. He’s an offensive character that needs those offensive options.
That in mind, it does seem like the qcf motion for U2 doesn’t really fit aesthetically. When I first saw/heard about it I thought it’d be the guile U1 motion.
Also, execution problems aside, even professionals get TP instead of Ultra so don’t act as if it’s something that JUST happens to noobs. In addition, while others may have similar problems- not many characters are as screwed as Bison when he TPs instead of Ultra. If Ryu does it, he gets EX SRK instead of Ultra. If Guile does it, he gets Flash Kick instead of Ultra. What happens if Bison does it? He gets a TP with a billion frames of recovery that doesn’t even move him, it just makes him sit in the same place open to huge punishment.