The SSF4 Dictator Request Thread

Okay. Perhaps. Just perhaps… You can read what I wrote?

I said that I know it isnt an OH in CvS2. I said they should make it one. And I didnt say you should use PB in combos. I said that you could use to open up combos and keep your opponent on his toes and from constantly blocking low. SK loops and dash throws are alright and all. But it would be nice to make them actually concerned about just sitting there and waiting for you to fuck up because at any moment they could get an OH and open themselves up for SK combos. Maybe just maybe…read?

they would have to put god like startup and recovery on it to even be useful over using LK Scissors instead.

If it’s a move that puts Bison that close to an opponent, and your opponent blocks it properly, you’re probably getting punished.

Edit: and generally, moves don’t go from being not overhead to overhead…i really can’t think of many off hand

Ryu’s Downpunch leaved him vulnerable too. But it keeps the opponent on his toes just because he has it as an option. And it doesn’t matter if moves don’t generally make that change. Characters get changes. moves as well.

I approve of an overhead Psycho Banish. It forces the opponent to consider your offense rather than wait for a mistake.

I am in support of a special that is an overhead. OH Psycho Banish is an excellent suggestion, as, mentioned before, it keeps the opponent guessing, on their’ toes, and liable to make mistakes. Even if they DO block, a special move like Psycho Banish would cause chip damage, which is very much in keeping with Bisons’ aggressive, relentless playstyle.

More mixup = yay.

More opportunities for chip = yay.

What’s there to complain about? Seriously this suggestion kicks ass.

Awesome but no where near as awesome as Psycho Destroyer, Bison teleports off-screen and psycho smashes into the ground at an angle or perpindicular; like a psycho powered meteor.

Yes, I would rather brainstorm new moves than discuss again why Psycho Banish has no place in SF4. All Bison NEEDS is to correct HS, DS, SD and PC’s, restoring their glorious properties such as superior velocities, ability to cross up etc.

Bison NEEDS his tools to be fixed and geared more towards high risk, reward. Bison WANTS a way to combo into ultra, many have suggested very viable options for this such as juggling into ultra after backthrow or comboing from SD/EX DS that juggles aerial opponents.

Bison does not NEED new moves, his existing specials are fantastic in theory, they need to be fixed.

For the last time; Psycho Banish won’t do him much good in SF4 - It was never an overhead, Bison does not need or even want to banish fireballs, he’d rather bait them. Bison doesn’t need more DP motions.

An overhead as a simple command attack like f+m.P is better, but not what he really needs right now.

Wow, didn’t know all I had to say to troll was “EX Knee Press crumple stun”.

I like this idea actually. After seeing DJ with something similar i can see them doing this for Bisons EX Scissors considering how unsafe it is on Block.

I think I explained pretty well why PB as an OH would help him out immensely. And having the EX version hit cause crumple would give him an ultra or quick combo. I mean (as was brought up earlier) Akuma has Teleport, Shoryuken, and EX Shoryuken all as SRK motions and hes got no problems with that.

Id quite like them to ensure that EX headstomp in particular, doesnt trade with SRK -> ryu ultra…its not cool and its not fun!

Other than that…maybe a decent ground AA…but in saying that…as bison, I kinda WANT the other guy to jump in- it opens up my headstomp game…and more importantly- my ultra (j.mp> j.mp> ultra) sooooo…I dunno…ill be still happy with bison if they leave him as he is…but any new tools/improvements can only be a welcome addition!

Now…if they were to give my other main Sim a fair few improvements that would be more appropriate ^^

and no thanks to crumple on EX SK. Its properties already make it a great tool since it can go through fireballs.

How would you guys like for either EX psycho crusher or EX knee press to EX focus absorb similar to Boxers EX rush punches or Abel’s EX COD?

Random thought: What if his Super crumpled?

They can make it an overhead…?

having his super crumple isn’t very useful.

The idea behind a crumple move is to set up an ultra.
With this in mind it’s better to only use 1/4 bar(ex) or 1/2(FADC)

I’ve had plenty of matches where an Ultra could get me the win, but I didn’t have a super ready to go.

Also keeping the ultra combos to EX, FADC or juggle keeps the combo ability in line with the rest of the cast.

EX PC does absorb one hit from a FB i believe.

EX-PC is treated as a 2-hit fireball. That’s why sometimes you eat a EX fireball and then pass through the opponent harmlessly. It’s also the reason behind a lot of funny behavior with that move.

Not sure why they made it that way. Although it does seem OP for a move to have both invincibility frames AND armor (and armor break to boot). I prefer armor to the fireball system, but I prefer invincibility over the armor.

And somewhere in all that mess you can still be thrown. Sigh.

What if EX PC juggled so you could follow-up with ultra or HK/SK/HP etc.

Not likely to happen but I like the idea, + rep for you…