Insightful,but cr.hp with Juri is something that scares me to death.
Eh? Why?
Cr.hp is broken. And not the good kind of brokenā¦
What, itās bad range or itās inability to function as an anti-air, or that it just whiffs a bunch
No walk forward or nothing? Just lp>HP?
Yeah, it even works on standing opponents. I just went to training mode to check. The lp has to be point blank.
On it doggoneit
Come lag with us
if I get an invite, I will
Yes. I forgot about that actually, it makes her fireball left/right mix-ups in V-Trigger worthwhile.
I think is a 8f gap I dont see how could I use it
You would be surprised at the shit people press online my friend.
The cr.hp is supposed to be a CC into her lk release? Iāve tried that before too and i found the ranges from which i could get a dash up normal to combo after the cr.lp release very inconsistent. Sometimes i was too close and the fireball hits too soon, other times it didnāt combo. Also if they are pressing a throw instead of a normal the cr.hp completely whiffed. This is what i remembered though.
You can get it consistent? I might have to try it again, i suspect itās probably character specific though(or it depends on the normal you CC lol)
I remember Juri also having a few post stun combo scenarios for in the corner, iāve completely forgotten those, anyway has a link to those?
It could be done from a throw>stun i believe.
Havenāt tested it against throws, but regardless someone mashing throw will beat it anyway because itās a 6f gap. I use it to beat slow mid options that people mash when they desperately want V-Trigger cancels and stuff. Itās niche.
I remember the throw stun combo, I think? It was forward throw -stun- > backdash > if you donāt have stores, store them. Think you have time to charge one if they mash. > st.hp xx LK.Release > st.hp xx MK Fuha > cr.mp xx HK release xx VTC > st.hp xx MK release > cr.mp xx LK release xx HK release > super
I remember the combo, but I canāt remember how to set-up the spacing for it.
So eHubs is quick to cover Infilās gripes and wanted changes for Juri, but our community buff suggestions are nowhere to be found. Hm
Though, shoutouts to @AriesWarlock for linking the video. Still not sure why neither SRK nor eHubs has any interest in even talking about the vid/list, but oh well.
Does Infiltration not know of s.HP or heās just pushing the agenda?
I canāt put any heavy investment in Infiltration anymore after calling Nash dead, but then having Bonchan swing in with so much success. If youāre going to call a character dead, they better actually be dead and not have anyone else suddenly steal spotlight from you with CPT wins vs a lot of high tier ass characters. I think he really needs to push with the characters he is using rather than try to bring another character into a coffin that most likely isnāt supposed to be in one to begin with.
Juriās anti air is still better than a good portion of the cast and Karin and Chun Li would generally die to have her anti air capabilities. I donāt have any of the problems Infiltration is talking about concerning her AA and Gentleman Thief still regularly AAās with her stand jab and seems to have a good read on which jumping buttons it works against. Infiltration supposedly listed V Trigger version of c.HP as a solid AA, but thereās nobody that Iāve seen actually using that as an AA. Especially since once youāre in V Trigger people are usually running away and not jumping forward at you any way. They donāt wanna jump into fireballs and get okiād or frame trapped. Her forward dash gets buffed in V Trigger as well which makes it harder to simply want to jump forward at her when she can easily just slide under your jump and force you into traps.
Necalliās dive is pretty easy to eye and just do a late MP DP to beat. He stalls in the air quite visibly. In the video Infiltration is showing extremely early attempts at MP DP AA which of course, doesnāt work. Late always works for me.
There are things that she needs help with, but AA is not one. Especially when itās officially harder to AA with Chun now than it is with Juri. A lot harder.
Hence why Iām saying heās maybe pushing an agenda for Juri to get buffed, since he would love to play the character (he said so on her release because sheās Korean).
I mean Juri s.HP is a great anti-air, is relatively fast and has a very good hitbox, even it it doesnāt seem like it. I mean the button anti airs Dictatorās head press and Clawās FBA reliably, is clearly good.
I strongly believe he is downplaying her because his voice is actually heard by capcom (Nash did get some slight buffs in S2.5) while ours is ignored.
Oh by the way DJ I remember Bonchan agreeing with Infiltration on Nash and calling the people that nerfed him retards in an interview.
Be that as it may, Iāll be severely miffed if Capcom listens to just Infiltration or one or two other persons, without carefully considering what the community wants. We all want Juri to be buffed, but I still think misrepresenting her AAs like that doesnāt help. As @āDevilJin 01ā pointed out, heās doing her AAs way too early and making them look worse than they are, when thatās not even the focus of what Juri needs.
Knowing Capcom, they will buff her cr.hp to be a solid anti air and call it a day. There ya go, Juri is fixedā¦
I decided to comment on the article, talking about the buff list/vid and added links to them. Probably a bit too late now, since the article will lose attention soon, but I did my part.