The Spider's Lair - Juri

The last 2 pages have been nothing but a wishlist of Juri changes. Meaning this character after a few months is still not viable. They need to go back in season 2 and actually return many of the things she lost in IV. I know since V is a different game there are things she had in 4 that wouldn’t be balanced…but Jesus, her fireball game needed to be completely neutered? her normals made stumpy?

Ugh.

I’ve been on an Ultra kick for the past couple of weeks and I’m having so much more fun in it than V.

Unless I get some news from capcom stating their making the changes we want in a month or so, I’m just selling this game.

It’s collecting dust.

What are Juri’s good matchups? I assumed Zangief would have been ok but she can really only use one fireball then if she tries to store another one the Gief can take advantage of it and get in immediately, and her normals aren’t good enough to keep him away. Maybe Laura?

V-skill charge needs to be way, way shorter or have a hit of armour on some variation (like the cancel which is kinda pointless as is) Oh and it needs to be less unsafe too as -13 is stupid.

Her DP (Tensenrin I think) might be better if moved to Punches.

I can think of a few

I’m having better luck now by ignoring stores almost completely, just blasting them out when I get a chance and using them as bonus options instead of trying to back up and gameplannig around them, charged v-skill is my new focus, having it charged means you can whiff punish almost everything.

It’s charge is stupid slow though and the regular is nonsense for something that’s -13

Edit: TARGET COMBO WHIFFING ON CROUCHERS.

Matchups I think that are pretty good for her are:
Zangief
Dhalsim
Guile
Urien

Or Karin, since it does seem like as they as Juri’s style is a bootleg, unnecessarily-complicated Karin-like rushdown. :dizzy:

I’m really liking her. I do miss sf4 version of her but I don’t find her anymore complicated than her old self. I just summed her up as a stock and reload character now where before she was a zoner and yet still a stock and reload character.

I still play her as a zoner. Her many ranges she can attack from makes people fear closing in on the mid range game (even if it’s already a clusterfuck). I typically use her fireball and normals as her neutral. Even if her fireball is -2, at certain ranges it still can be plus on block. I like being able to dictate the ground game and once again her fireball sets up her offense.

If anyone would like to add for some matches, I’d be more than willing to play sometime. CFN: MoonM4n

Juri seems to get better and better to me the more I play her. Only match up I hate playing is the Ryu match up. Jumping lk makes that match hell for her.

MK pinwheel gives you a better answer to Ryu j.LK than what most of the other cast has.

Oh and yeah in this type of game with weakened fireballs LK fuharen is really good in this game. It’s a poke that can’t be poked back at that is low profiling. Just a really good tool in this type of game in general. Plus once you get V Trigger you just throw it out, cancel the whiff into VTC and go HAM.

Oh I’m not saying that she doesn’t have an answer for it but because of the weird angles the move can come at it makes it difficult for me anyways to pinwheel. Jump in lights like that are weird because of the angles they come in and the fact that it straight up beats every other anti air sickens me. Anti-airing with pinwheel is something I should practice.

I think that b.HK is the way to play Juri . Seriously that normal does everything. Meaty, Frame trap, Good range, cancellable and easy to confirm because it hits twice and link into light kick for essentially a 3 hit confirm ( Something Juri has a lot of that most other characters don’t), you get most of your damage off it.

Thank you to all the people who spoke of Juri’s good traits and put a stop on all the complaining. Everyone complaining just wants to have it easier. Stop comparing her to SF4 Juri, it’s pointless to any real balance standards. And to those who say “I’m going to Urien.”, have fun, he’s a really cool character - and have fun getting smothered and having your fireball game shut down by the Juri’s that know what they’re doing. :wink:

Funnily enough I fought against the highest ranked Juri I’ve seen online yesterday (5600lp or something I think) with my Urien. Even with my half-assed Urien that just presses buttons and zero combos it still ended up being a close match. I just felt zero pressure fighting against Juri even when the guy went in hard. I always suspected this was the case when I played Juri but now I can confirm it from the other end too.

Even when I’m playing the mirror half the time I’m like “Whatever. He’s playing JURI.”

But Ryu has Axe kick, sure you lose a frame of startup and can’t cancel both hits but it’s zero on block. For everything he has that Juri doesn’t it’s a brilliant trade off.

If b.hk is how to play juri then Ryu does it better. Nevermind his jab anti air, invincible shoyuken, jump lk, fireball with no store, excellent standing mp, cr.mk poke, etc etc etc

You’re not even in range for the light kick all the time. I’d really like it if they made it +5 so we can get the st.mp and convert from slightly farther out.

Yeah it’s weird to use MK pinwheel as an anti air because that’s literally its only use, but it’s there to use and wins free.

b+HK is really really good. It’s definitely the big piece that most Juri players are missing in their neutral and close game. Very low commitment heavy normal with good range and cancel properties which I’m sure gets really strong when you have stores ready. Plus it’s generally a good move to help give you range to store.

Her c.LK and c.MK are also really good. c.MK longer than Ryu’s and she has faster forward walk.

I think it’s a little dumb to compare her to her sf4 version as well since it’s a new game and old characters got changes, maybe not as drastic as Juri but still enough to make them play slightly different from what they did before. But that doesn’t mean these people aren’t right to complain about how bad she is. It’s important to figure out her glaring flaws so that Capcom can fix them, people left playing Juri are still looking for the good things about her along with understandably being frustrated with how weak she is compared to the other characters and people are obviously going to post a lot more about what is wrong with the character than what is right, that’s just human nature everyone loves complaining.

To be honest though I did come over to these forums to see what she had going for her that I may have missed in training mode, and it doesn’t help a whole ton to have nothing but complaints.

On the other hand I played a super platinum Urien and beat the shit out of him soooo… Who knows what the matchup will be like later on.

I found a very strong Juri player name skillsmith not sure if you guys already know about them but they seem to know quite a bit about the character and are making them work, currently ranked 93 as I post this.

That’s hsien chang. Kreymore is also a really good juri to watch. Though on stream last night, he played Arturo pretty terribly lol.

@Lion_Jak if you’re willing i’ll hit you up for some mirror matches to see if we can feed off each other some regarding ideas. the ony other good juri i’ve played against is Trife’s.
i’ll try to hit you up right now if you can.
edit:
assuming you arent on the opposite side of the planet as me.

as for match ups.
i havent figured out her best match ups but i know Gief feels in her favor still.

worst match ups for me.
Necalli
Rashid
they both have specials that close the gap and wont let me stock up
Ken
Nash
Guile

best match ups
Gief
Urien
Alex
Cammy
Balrog